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[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

You need an actual opposition party then. Blaming non voters is the dumbest thing you can fucking do and will make your situation worse and worse

[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The opposition party could obviously be better, but I think they were strong enough that "no preference" wasn't the right choice. (After all, choosing not to vote is essentially a vote that says "I don't care who wins".)

[–] peppers_ghost@lemmy.ml 5 points 21 hours ago

Democrats are voting some of the people in that trump is suggesting for roles. They're enabling this shit too

[–] AoxoMoxoA@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

I agree.

Labor party, Democrat, republican/ conservative, maga, etc. . And cut it out with this D/R bullshit. It's maddening. There are people that have a serious moral issue casting a vote for some of the choices given.

I'm sure a lot of the people who sat it out are more informed and upset with what is going on than some of those that "chose the lesser evil". They have every right to be furious.

[–] bent_on_mycelial_growth@sh.itjust.works -1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Right, because the people who voted against trump are the ones that can--in a single election--dismantle and oppressive two party system crafted by an oligarchy feeding people the illusion of choice so they won't riot. Of course the few of us who understand this and actually voted for the candidate with the best shot are able to do this. And of course we should have done this before all of the mass voter fraud being uncovered could lead to Trump taking an office he didn't actually win. You're absolutely right. Let me call everyone up and let them know we need to regroup.

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

You have no opposition party in America, your two party system also is a huge problem. In this way fascism will always win.

[–] MisanthropiCynic@lemm.ee 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly. And you have people like me who refused to vote for Democrats because while they might not be as horrible as Donald Trump, there is still too much wrong with them for me to support them. I get called a Tankie bot whether I don’t vote or I vote third-party so fuck the DNC

[–] Pandasdontfly@lemmy.today 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Except why does that vote have to mean that you support them and not that you don't support the even worse people. If we may never be able to vote again and may never have another ruler besides dictator don Will that have been worth the moral high ground?

[–] MisanthropiCynic@lemm.ee 1 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Participating in an election means you are agreeing to abide by the outcome of the election. By not participating you are protesting and saying I not recognise the legitimacy of this process.

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Wrong. The act of living in the USA at all is agreeing to recognise their laws and processes and outcomes of elections. You sound like one of those sovereign citizens that think they can get out of arrest/court/prison by "not consenting" to it.

[–] Pandasdontfly@lemmy.today -1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Something i'd like to ask is what did you expect but legitimately. And what are you doing to fix it you cant have a plan for having the betterment of a problem like in Gaza it fail cause both of the two known and only voteable options are genociders then choose to do nothing and that be the entire plan right. Assumedly your forming groups, protesting, pushing for reform not JUST non voting and sitting being a key board warrior right?

[–] MisanthropiCynic@lemm.ee 0 points 20 hours ago

Gaza is not a problem to me. I honestly don’t give a shit.

I don’t want anything except to be left alone, and neither party seems to be capable of doing that

[–] Pandasdontfly@lemmy.today -2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Inaction IS an action the only choice for non voting is ignorance OR confidence your actions will lead to an outcome that involves a new party entering or reforming. But again the issue is KNOWINGLY If trump won everyone said and knew we would be losing our rights and democracy and ANY chance to vote for someone much more reasonable so now there will be no process for you to not recognize I guess.

[–] MisanthropiCynic@lemm.ee 2 points 21 hours ago

Barack “I’ve got a pen, and I’ve got a phone.” Obama shows the same attitude from the other side.

It’s more palatable, but it’s still the same oppressive bullshit

[–] bent_on_mycelial_growth@sh.itjust.works -1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Correct. This is a major problem. The point is that it wasn't made by the people, and the few of us who understand how problematic it is can't simply make a new party and have it be successful. That doesn't fix the two party system. America is a shit show, but some of us are doing what we can, and that isn't enough but that's not our faults.

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Exactly, so why are you blaming people if its not our faults? You are the one debating in defense of blaming people, voters, and non voters alike.

I'm not doing that. That's not what's happening. If you interpreted it that way, that is unfortunate. However, I am not, in fact, blaming people. Non voters couldn't have fixed this. Voters couldn't have fixed this. No one is being blamed. Except I'm kind of blaming you for not understanding what I said. But only kind of, and mostly as a joke.