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[–] jsnc@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can differentiate between GNU/Linux users and Linux users on whether they have steam installed, and differentiate further if it is installed as a flatpak or not.

[–] mkwarman@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't get it, but I'd like to. Would you explain the difference for me?

[–] HKayn@dormi.zone 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Most Linux users on the internet are elitists.

Not much more to take away from that comment. It's essentially differentiating between "casual Linux users" and "real Linux users".

[–] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

As a Linux enjoyer it's definitely true that the elitist/casual ratio is higher on Linux compared to Windows or MacOS (especially Arch manual installers), but as more and more people will adopt Linux, this ratio will probably be lower and lower.

[–] jsnc@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's not differentiating between "casual Linux users" or "real Linux users," Valve's Steam does not belong in the GNU operating system (GNU/Linux) since it forces users to install a nonfree interface and also invites users to be subject to DRM (though it is optional for developers to enable or not). The problem is not Steam's role as a content distribution manager (handling payments, delivering files), but the fact that it restricts the users freedom through their steam client (which there are no viable free software solutions to).

If a discussion of free software unnerves you, I don't care. But to label this as a conflict between "casual vs real, normie vs elite" is just unironically doing what this meme is mocking in the first place.

[–] HKayn@dormi.zone 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Here we go.

Who are you to decide what does and does not belong on Linux?

[–] Sunrosa@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

GNU preaches free software. Steam is nonfree. I think they're just trying to point that out.

[–] jsnc@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I didn't the license did :)

I think what they were specifying was the role GNU plays in that sentence. Personally I don't like calling one GNU/Linux and the other Linux, but the defining point of GNU is that it's uses only free open source software, and does not contain any non-free (as in speech, not beer) software.

[–] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

Paranoid people usually will use a flatpak version of software, since that can secure the person's privacy a bit more than a non-flatpak one. (The program is isolated from the system, just like a docker container if you know what that is)