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Pidgin. That failed. Then we have matrix. That kinda failed. And now beeper?
I don't know..
Why do you feel like matrix has failed? I joined it recently and to me it looks like it’s kinda growing.
Well.. I said 'kinda failed'. Synapse is still way too slow. And the new dendrite server is still not up to spec. Joining large rooms is still gives me a headache. I can't easily protect DDoS or spam accounts. I was forced to basically close registrations my Matrix server. And Dendrite is not yet production ready which is a shame.. Don't get me wrong, I do like Matrix in general. I just hope my previous remarks are taken seriously by their devs.
Idk, that’s more of a “not yet finished” thing rather than “failed” imo
yea.. you are right. It "sort of failed" at some point, because I'm waiting for Matrix to solve these issues for more then 6 years now.. basically since the start..
Beeper is Matrix in a trenchcoat, judging by their Github page.
How did Matrix fail?
It's the base for numerous messengers used by governments around the world, it has a userbase of more than 70 million core users (not counting the various closed messengers). Various competitors (e.g. Rocket Chat) have changed their base to Matrix.
And Beeper is Matrix with Bridges (which you absolutely could deploy yourself). In theory anyone could recreate the Beeper functionality with existing other apps/bridges AND be able to communicate with Beeper on their native standard - Matrix.
See my reaction above (https://kbin.melroy.org/m/technology@beehaw.org/t/11834/-/comment/90707)
ow lame.. It's non-free??
Double lame..!
You can use any matrix client you want with it. The closed source one is just making bridging more straightward and adding some little quality of life features.
Well... I'm using pidgin right now.
Great! Good to hear you use Pidgin! I love using it in the past as well.. I now use Matrix mainly. Should I go back to Pidgin?
Pidgin didn't use bridges, it tried to be "all the possible clients in one"... with closed source protocols... which went south, fast. It still works for some, though.
Matrix is running just fine, it doesn't have the infinite flexibility of XMPP which made XMPP clients incompatible with each other, so as long as it doesn't jump the shark, it's just a matter of time to drive adoption.