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Man, we've had this discussion a time or two already here on lemmy after you've jumped in after these guys who make it clear they're proud of not voting and you never seem to get that one can hold the Democratic party overall as ineffective jackasses and yet still realize that Republicans are worse in every conceivable way and get all upset when you're both sides everything, acting like Oprah with "you're a genocider and you're a genocider", call everyone a Nazi when only one side is actually doing salute in pubic viewpoints gets shit on. If you're proud of your vote for Trump or not vote for Harris over the Gaza situation then fine, want to continue to teach Democrats a lesson sure, that's your prerogative but you also have to deal with the fall out that is reality now.
Also, you can say what you will about Democrats, they suck. Yeah they do. That they're ineffective. Yeah, I'm tired of Jefferies and Shumer talking about bipartisanship too. But if you actually think that Democrats are no better than MAGA and their polices are no different and you refuse to vote then your opinion holds no weight and you're not living in any type of reality here, all you have to look at is DOGE, his cabinet members.
You want the Democrats to change then fucking vote in the primaries and back a progressive but when you don't get your candidate, don't throw a kiddie tantrum and not vote and spout off both sides nonsense and sit out because your team didn't win. You've have and had people that are fighting for change of the democratic party, and yeah it sure seems slow but progressives such as Ocasio-Cortez, Omar, Lee, Bush, Crockett and Pressley have made it into congress but again, change takes time and it 's been forty years of this so change isn't happening overnight. If you guys want to keep sitting out because of the sham of a "democracy", which again thanks to Americans not voting this election we won't have to deal with "democracy" ever again, then fine but don't expect change if you do and stop complaining when nothing does change.
And as for reality, you do have to deal with Trump and MAGA now on anything related to the middle east so good luck with that there isn't a single Democrat or Progressive that's in charge of that now.
I've never told anyone to not vote for the democrats and I've pointed out multiple times that I vote for democrats straight down the ballot every time and vote in every primary, so your entire response is moot. Sorry you had to type all those words directed at an argument I wasn't making at all.
And yet here you are yet again, jumping to the defense of those who are advocating for not voting and participating in the system and calling Democrats Nazi's and trying to make a case for them. If you're trying to win over hearts and minds about people voting progressive, you sure do suck at it and pick the worst threads to jump on by choosing to defend those who are advocating for not voting.
Back to the strawman again, I see. If you have a problem with people "advocating for not voting and participating in the system and calling Democrats Nazi’s" then take it up with them. All I'm doing is pointing out why democrats lose elections. Ignoring voters, mocking their concerns, insulting their intelligence, and taking their votes for granted is not going to "win over their hearts and minds".