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Biden decided it was more important to send billions in weapons to israel as they committed genocide than to listen to protestors, so much so that he thought it was worth losing their votes over it. Harris continued with the same rhetoric. You're ignoring over a year of things getting worse and worse in Palestine while insisting that somehow the democrats ignoring voters during an election when they need the votes are somehow going to make things better when they don't need the votes. You're admonishing people protesting against genocide in order to defend a party that has authorized billions in weapons to israel as they're committing genocide, with Biden even bypassing congress to do so. Think about it.
It's nice to see centrists finally object to the genocide they cheered for a solid year under Bidenyahu.
Biden wasn't able to hold back the tide ethnic cleansing and war crimes the IDF has inflicted on the Palestinians. It is very unlikely that a Harris win would have reigned in the killings, bombings, and all that have taken place since the election.
If you can't understand why people would abstain from supporting one of two genocide supporting candidates who had shown no interest in making things better, you're just as much to blame for the current US admin as those who did not vote.
Wasn't able? He sent weapons, money and everything Netanyahu needed. Had he stopped sending money and weapons and the genocide would have stopped that very moment.
Exactly. And he didn't. For whatever reasons he wasn't able to do anything but allow, if not actively encourage, the actions of Netanyahu and the IDF that led to the deaths of dozens to hundreds of Israelis, and tens of thousands of Palestinians.
He was able to, it was a deliberate decision not to
And you're too high on American exceptionalism to realise that the words coming out of the White House have zero impact on the experience of Palestians.
The war crimes, ethnic cleansing, and indeed genocide would be happening the same. The only difference is you need to make up for thinking it would be less horrific if you had a leader who'd wasn't so mask off about it.
Okay then stfu about Trump since you think he and Biden are equivalent.
You seem to have mistaken not materially different to Palestinians as equal to equivalent.
And that I didn't talk about the bad stuff done by Biden and Obama, and the Bushes, and (the) Clinton(s).
Maybe if the Democratic party was more willing to make more materialistic changes we wouldn't've had first Trump, let alone Trump 2. It is naive to hope that, and things for American sexual and ethnic minorities would be, generally, better under democrats. But they're a holding pattern until the Republicans get in, and Dems don't have people's backs.
But my original point was that if you're so blinkered to not even be able to understand why progressives and anti-imperialist would sit out of the 2024 election, you're not going to be able to talk them round to vote for Your Guy™ if there is an election again in the future.
Rather than understand a dissenting point of view, you dismiss and villify people you should be trying to work with and understand.
Get friendly with Black Bloc and maybe we can all make things better for everyone at home and in the Middle East.
Don’t give a shit what you think. Biden was the most progressive president in 50 years and progressives vilified him with your fucking purity test. You’re getting exactly what you deserve.
I'm intrigued.
What five policies of Biden make him the most progressive president of the last 50 years?
I’ll do you better. Name a more progressive president in your lifetime.
Obama? Billy C.? Though maybe that's my feels from being younger and less media savvy.
Though if I'm honest I don't think any US president has been progressive.
They haven't, neoliberalism is in opposition to genuine progressive policies. The closest we've gotten are piecemeal such as the ACA. Which, don't get me wrong, was a phenomenal improvement over the previous healthcare system, but was still a Republican written bill and was only implemented due to the grassroots movements and organization that demanded concessions.
Biden, on the domestic front, was certainly the most progressive since FDR. Specifically when it comes to labor but also some debt relief. But the admin did a terrible job communicating this. Additionally, these policies, while they certainly have helped, were not enough to genuinely address the material needs of everyday Americans. People want radical change. Incrementalism has not stopped the working class from being squeezed between rising costs of living and stagnant wages. However, his foreign policy was far from progressive and deeply unpopular. If the campaign did run on the radical progressive change people want, as indicated at every opportunity, they would have been far far more likely to win