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[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ok and if people in power refuse to press charges or just ignore it, then what? That's the problem we're facing. Trump was convicted, he is a 34 time convicted felon and has 0 consequences. The supreme court is corrupting the law itself. If the law was such that you go to jail for being gay, I would say it is very much up to the people to judge the ethics of that law. This whole concept is at the root of the civil war, and it's why there had to be an actual war.

[–] notabot@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was making a distinction between 'the people' in general, and 'the jury'. The people can, and should, consider the ethics of the law, and act appropriately. In less extreme cases that might involve encouraging your local legislator to push for changes in the law. We've seen the results in more extreme cases. Juries on the other hand should judge the case in front of them on its facts, rather than their feelings about the defendant and their actions. We've seen the results of juries not doing so, with lynch mobs getting away without consequence, and other defendants being found guilty for the color of their skin.

As to your point regarding the problem of those in power simply ignoring the law, you're right, that is a problem, and one which I doubt will be solved without extreme action. It is, of course, possible that in four years this gang will peacefully hand over to a less criminal administration, but I'm not confident of that. Even if they do, rebuilding trust in the concept of the law being applied equally and fairly will be a massive, and long term, challenge.

This is supposed to be uplifting news though, so let us hope that his defence can find a compelling argument and the jury can find him not guilty without recourse to tactics that might make the overall situation worse.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't get your mindset. You acknowledge that the law being ignored is a problem. You admit that they might not have power over with it's time. But you say extreme action is not the way to fix it. I mean, what other way is there?

I hope they find him not guilty and vigilante justice starts reminding people in power, those that horde 99% of the wealth at our expense, that the people can fight back. That courts and politicians can be corrupted and bought, like we've seen, but the people won't just lie down and take it.

[–] notabot@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

But you say extreme action is not the way to fix it. I mean, what other way is there?

I don't think I've said that. What I've said is that juries returning "not guilty" verdicts when the facts of the case say otherwise, just because they feel positive about the accused's actions, would be a problem for the reasons I've listed above.

I too hope he is found not guilty, but on the facts of the case. Whether that is because the defense manage to cause doubt as to the identification of the shooter, or they manage to make a case for diminished responsibilty or self defense, it would be ok. Successfully making a self-defense defense would send a very strong message to other CEOs.