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[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

thats one way to make sure openai can stay competitive

[–] magnus919@lemmy.brandyapple.com 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

As someone who actually approves $$ for tech vendors in an American company, I can tell you that no matter how cheaply China-based services become, they still aren't going to be seriously considered. Anthropic and OpenAI are based out of San Francisco. Legal jurisdiction to resolve contract disputes, breaches of confidentiality, etc. can be resolved in a fairly straightforward way between two American companies, especially when they are headquartered in the same court district.

Chinese companies exist inside of a legal safe harbor where they have less incentive to play by the rules, and a much lower risk of consequences for getting caught breaking them. The risk isn't worth the perceived savings.

[–] dan@upvote.au 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

One of the main features of Deepseek is that you can run it yourself. It doesn't matter if Deepseek are based in China if you run the model on your own servers and thus guarantee that your data doesn't leave your own data center.

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

True but you can run Linux on your own machine but it doesn’t stop anyone from paying AWS or Microsoft to handle it for them.

[–] logi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Give it 6 months and Amazon will be running this model for you "serverless" with a code name making it seem like their own product.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

they do this with other models

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes but people will pay redhat Linux to use a distro with support. Also almost the entire US internet server infrastructure runs on Linux.

So yeah a company can provide an open source product with commercial support

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

people will pay redhat Linux to use a distro with support

never seen this happen in my 20 years career

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Bizarre, I guess their business has been running on hopes and dreams instead of money for the past 30 years lol.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

that was my assumption

[–] FolknForage@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

100%

It’s as crazy as foreigners holding Chinese stocks