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Which instances have the most diverse points of view? (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by 13esq@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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Since Trump, I'm finding the Lemmy.world experience to be increasingly akin to an echo chamber and it's quite frankly starting to bore me. (Inb4, I'm a left winger and I don't like Trump, but I'm much more interested in a good spirited debate or novel points of view than I am in Orange man bad Nazi circle jerks)

If I wanted the same repetitive comments to be upvoted and any different opinion at all to be downvoted and even blocked/banned, I'd have just stayed on Reddit.

Are there any instances where different, opposing and novel points of view are celebrated and debated rather than simply derided and downvoted?

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[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The issue is that you can't have discussion or debate with:

statements in bad faith
statements not based on reality (conspiracy theories/misinformation/"alternative facts"

So the issue is once you have removed those, you aren't left with many people holding a very broad spectrum of viewpoints outside of niche topics (Vi vs Emacs).

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's extremely big headed to think that only the people who agree with you are arguing honestly and have not based their arguments on any incorrect information.

I'm here to learn and grow, not to circle jerk with my friends about how right we are.

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 2 points 2 days ago

I don't think it's always a difficult task to tell if someone is arguing in bad faith or not, and someone basing their argument on incorrect information is not that (and I assume you know that). So trying to say that I see a mere disagreement on a topic the same as one made in bad faith sounds like you're trying to conflate the two, making it a bad faith argument.

But if pretending a 'difference of opinion = bad faith argument' is what you're looking for I guess good luck. That is what I would call a "circle jerk", but to each their own. Not sure how that type of discussion with no basis in reality can help anyone to "learn and grow" though.