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What's your opinion? Does google really "not work" anymore? Are there any better search engines? Why did the quality of search results go down? I honestly stumbled onto this question through this music video, what is ironic in it's own way i feel...

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[–] kurogane@lm.helilot.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oooh I agree, this is some actual dirt

[–] Molehill8244@beehaw.org 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

To focus more on the product there are 2 incidents I think of as to why I don't use brave

honorable mention is their affiliation with crypto

[–] papaya@possumpat.io 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, the crypto stuff is getting too much, plus they're shoving stuff like their VPN, search, and news down users' throat. I used to use Brave as a secondary browser bc of its profile feature, but switched to Orion a couple weeks ago and never looked back.

[–] Lowbird@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

I read an article just yesterday about Brace selling AI access "rights" to other peoples' copyrighted work that gets pulled by their search, too. Like they have an equivalent of google snippets, but with much longer "snippets" of copyrighted books, and they explicitly sell "rights" for people to scrape that and other things for AI datasets, as if their search engine indexing a thing gives them ownership of it.

Also there was that one time they put a link to a neo-nazi website into their list of defaults on their homepage. Yup.

It's all to the point that I don't actually trust a word they say about their privacy protections either, really, even if I were willing to ignore everything else.

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The affiliate links are done by (almost?) every search engine so it’s not fair to single out Brave for it. Note I’m not defending them, if you’re truly up in arms about it talk about all of them doing it.

[–] Molehill8244@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you have a source for that? I say this because it made the news everywhere when it was exposed. Just to be clear... it wasn't that affiliate links made the index. The Brave browser would hijack what you typed in the URL bar, even if it was the exact URL, with their own affiliate link

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

Looks like I need to start saving things as I stumble upon them because searching for them later is fruitless. I’ll delete my comment as I can’t dig up a source.