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[–] 5in1k@lemm.ee 263 points 6 days ago (90 children)

The “disruptive protests are bad” people are straight garbage pieces of shit. You know what is disruptive? Blizzards in Florida, wildfires in California and Canada, and mass migrations of island people due to oceans rising. So go fuck yourselves with this “boo hoo traffic got held up a couple minutes “ bullshit you fucking pussies.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 70 points 5 days ago (1 children)

A non-disruptive protest is masturbation.

A protest is disruption.

That's why protests in designated protest zones out of the eyelines and more importantly away from the profit operations of those being protested are an intentional and effective method of completely neutering protest.

We have protest in the US. It just doesn't mean anything anymore.

[–] whynot_1@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

You are not masturbating correctly.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

Well put. The same dumbfucks who decry the visual pollution of looking at windmills but don't realize actual smog is the alterntative.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 36 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

People hate protests even though they absolutely work because those people are for the status quo. I truly believe centrists are not actually on a line in between "right" and "left," but rather their own node so we all make a triangle. Much of what centrists believe are not anything like what the rest of us believe, but they are cowards who DESPERATELY want to be seen as the norm, as one of us by everyone (which is why they try to claim a "center" position, while the fascists and anti-fascists both recognize there is no middle ground between the two).

Centrism therefore should not be looked at as a mix of right and left, but as a mix of mainly centrist goals and thoughts. Teasing out centrism from the left will help us progress.

https://news.gallup.com/vault/246167/protests-seen-harming-civil-rights-movement-60s.aspx

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I think the key is who it is disruptive to. Blocking traffic just pisses off the average person. The decision makers don't care about the average person. You gotta disrupt the decision makers. But you also have to be prepared for them to fight back hard.

[–] suodrazah@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

our society is rapidly producing them, it seems like there's an intent to make angrier, disaffected people even.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (5 children)

The average person needs to start caring too. Too many zombies out there.

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[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The “disruptive protests are bad” people are straight garbage pieces of shit.

Strawman. There are no such people. You are mischaracterizing criticism of JSO methodology as criticism of their cause.

When you're protesting racism in February, 1960, do you plan a sit-in protest at a "Whites Only" diner? JSO methodology would have you picket a black-owned restaurant that caters to minorities, to "bring attention" to the problem. As if their audience had no clue that the problem existed.

When you're protesting homophobia in the 90s, do you attend a pride parade? Based on their current methodology, JSO would have slow-walk in front of a gay bar, to "bring attention" to discrimination on the basis of sexuality by disrupting attendance of that bar. As if their audience didn't already know that they were victims of homophobia.

If you're protesting the health insurance industry in the 2020s, do you "Occupy ERs", or do you Player 2 an insurance executive? Based in their current methodology, JSO would camp out in an ambulance bay, to "bring attention" to the plight of the sick and injured. As if patients didn't realize how badly they were being screwed by "insurers".

JSO (et al) is "disrupting" the general public instead of "disrupting" agents, subsidiaries, or beneficiaries of the oil industry. They are targeting the public as if the public has no clue that we are being screwed over.

JSO could be making just as big a spectacle, and bringing just as much attention to the problem by targeting gas stations, ICE car dealerships, and other public faces of the oil industry. Instead, they are "disrupting" fellow victims of that industry.

Yes, we need disruptive protests: we need the

oil industry to be disrupted.

The oil industry. Not the general public.

JSO should be driving a wedge between the transportation industry and the oil industry. Fuel stations are probably the most obvious: take action against any fuel station that doesn't offer EV charging. (Later, you can target "gas" stations that refuse to abandon there legacy pumps).

Car dealerships: target any dealer that doesn't have EVs front and center on their lots.

Muffler shops: drive them completely out of business; they shouldn't exist at all.

Some states have emission testing requirements that affect only the drivers of ICE vehicles. Disrupting the operation of testing centers prevents ICE vehicle owners from being able to register their vehicles.

[–] Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 4 days ago (7 children)

The blockade power stations and airfield quite often.

But those ones barely make news, let alone front page news.

Also major motorways outside a large city is much more like marching your protestors down main street in Birmingham, US or marching on a capital city, getting those city centre shut down for Blacks and Whites alike than sitting in a Blacks only eatery.

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