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[–] Malek061@lemmy.world -3 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Uyghur Genocide and Concentrated Reeducation Camps in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region of the People’s Republic of China https://search.app/fyMhR137LTgqVkEJ8

Here is a report from the office of national intelligence last November listing all the data for the genocide.

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

The document is from a US intelligence agency from what it seems, it's poorly referenced, and even then there's nothing post-2021, is there?

I explicitly asked to please point at the reference within the article, because I'm exhausted of people just finding articles on google on this topic on western media and sending them to me without reading them. Please tell me what post-2021 huma right abuses are referenced and well-sourced in the report

[–] Malek061@lemmy.world -2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

You didn't download it did you? There is recent and relevant information about Uygher displacement and ethic cleansing. Why do you support ethnic cleansing?

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 6 points 10 hours ago

Again: point out the exact reference in the "report", because I simply can't find it, I already asked you twice to do that.

Anyway, amazing that your argument is "look, Uyghur genocide is real. And here's the evidence: US intelligence state propaganda"

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

So I checked it out... never directly states where the data is from ("PRC state media and data", "party documents and data reportedly obtained from local public security bureaus in Xinjiang", it continues to be this vague never specific throughout), most of the dates end in 2021/2022 (for the latter e.g. "the last date for which authorities have issued such reports", so that doesn't show it hasn't ended in 2021)

The closest thing you have in there is

the continued elevated number of indictments in 2022 suggests that the campaign continues

Are there other, better, sources?

[–] Malek061@lemmy.world -4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Two years after Xinjiang findings, UN reports ‘limited access to information’, ‘reprisals’ against activists | ISHR https://search.app/rTPVgDbwvYQ9ozAEA

China is refusing to allow an investigation. That's a presumption of guilt.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I never heard of the ISHR. They seem to be cagey about their funding sources 🤔

The actual UN OHCHR report is a one-pager that provides no detail or evidence to back up its mention of “limited access” and “fear of reprisals”: https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-briefing-notes/2024/08/china-update-work-un-human-rights-office

Weak tea.

ETA: Looking deeper, the funding seems to mostly come from NATO & NATO “partner” governments and the Ford Foundation.