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[–] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 5 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

First, it's the genocide and ethnic cleansing of the Uyghurs, same as Israel and the Palestinians.

Second, no excuses here. You brought up the Israeli genocide in a thread that had nothing to do with the genocide and did it in a way so as to seemingly say that China is somehow less corrupt and guilty than the US... It's not. Neither genocide is excusable or justifiable.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 0 points 5 hours ago

It is absolutely relevant to why Tiktok is being banned.

Also equating the two is dishonest at best. The images from both tell a totally different story. You are just propagandized.

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

First, it's the genocide and ethnic cleansing of the Uyghurs

Then why did the Wikipedia article change its name from Uyghur Genocide to Persecution of Uyghur?

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Genocide is a controversial term.

Even today, people contest the Armenian genocide, and Ukrainian genocide (holodomir). Even the Holocaust.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I think most normal people are quite happy to ignore the opinions of anyone that denies the holocaust.

Although I wonder how many people realise the scale of it? 6 million Jews gets repeated a lot more than all the other victims. Ask the average person in the street how many died and how many would say it was 6 million in total and forget the rest? The other victims shouldn't be forgotten about.

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

People contest the Ukrainian genocide because it wasn't a genocide, it was a famine that affected multiple regions including Ukraine, and didn't have any ethnical component to it.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It was Stalin who systematically made the famine worse in Ukraine to break them. I learned about it in High School history class.

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

Wow, you learned it in high school, must be true then lmao. I was taught in high school that the Spanish empire was cool and based, and there were no atrocities in Latin america in my studies.

The claims of Holodomor being a genocide against Ukrainian are new, mostly post-2000s, and part of nationalist movements in eastern Europe and russophobia/anticommunism.