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[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I mean they're also banning chinese networking hardware, chinese phone manufacturers, chinese software in cars, considering banning chinese drones, potentially banning tencent games, etc etc

I'm feeling pretty confident that the goal here is banning chinese spying considering all the other bans.

[–] WatDabney@fedia.io 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No government ever oppresses its citizenry by announcing that they're setting out to oppress the citizenry.

They always, without exception, do it by first targeting someone the bulk of the populace thinks deserves it, and then only later incrementally expanding their reach.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's true, and that's why so many internet censorship it spying bills are officially to counter pedophiles.

Banning tiktok is clearly controversial though, and I honestly don't think it's trying to soften people up to the government banning social media.

[–] WatDabney@fedia.io 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's true, and that's why so many internet censorship it spying bills are officially to counter pedophiles.

Yes.

But that was just an interim strategy, and could never serve their long-term goal, since all it could allow them to do is to institutionalize the authority to censor in cases of activity already deemed criminal.

The difference with the TikTok ban is that neither TikTok nor its users have been accused of any crime. This ban is being enacted in spite of the fact that there's nothing criminal about the site, and that's a new power.

I honestly don't think it's trying to soften people up to the government banning social media.

I guarantee that that's exactly what it's about.

It's not a coincidence that all of the domestic social media overlords have already lined up to swear their fealty to Trump (and to hand him big piles of money). They know which way the wind is blowing, and they're ensuring that they don't get TikToked.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You're dealing with what is likely restricted intelligence here. The reason people haven't been backing up claims with proof of interference is because that proof isn't declassified. It isn't hard to understand that. Nobody was particularly up in arms about the potential TP Link ban, and that can be fixed with updated firmware.

Additionally, two things can be true at once. It can be true that the government took Meta lobby money in exchange for this ban, and true that Tik Tok is a danger to national security. It would not be the first time the government had their cake and ate it too.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Its being banned because of Zionist lobbying to censor pro Palestinian content. The China spying story is a cover.

US Social media platforms like Meta have been aggressively censoring Palestinian content.

https://www.hrw.org/report/2023/12/21/metas-broken-promises/systemic-censorship-palestine-content-instagram-and

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/meta-censorship-devastating-palestinian-news-sources

Jonathan Greenblatt. ADL director gave it away last year in a leaked recording when he said "we have a TikTok problem".

https://youtube.com/shorts/0f4cbLic3aA?si=uvk6cBVqPksRScBU

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

They ban it to protect their companies, china would sell too cheap until all American competitors die out.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

Then they should ban that, not pass an extremely broad law as I detail in another comment.