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[–] MaxPower@feddit.de 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah well this is frightening. In 25-30 years I will retire and now I need to raise the chances that I will live in a home with air conditioning in a country that -- currently -- hardly has buildings with air conditioning because it was not a necessity up until now. This will be an uphill battle. I don't want to die prematurely in a summer heat wave..

[–] Rufio@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They make air conditioners that are relatively cheap, pretty easy to install and take up virtually no space these days. Usually wall mounted.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's all well and good until your AC breaks, hits its heat transfer limit, you lose the ability to afford it run the AC, or your electricity goes out because the grid is overloaded because everyone else is also running their AC.

AC is band aid, not a solution.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's normal to use AC for billions of people already, so it is a solution to our reality as it is.

Where I live, I've been in need of AC my whole life, which has spanned multiple centuries already.

If your grid is overloaded, get some solar panels and make your own power off-grid. If your air conditioner breaks, buy another one or keep a spare one on hand. That's what the fuck I'm gonna do, because AC is great and I love having it.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s normal to use AC for billions of people already, so it is a solution to our reality as it is.

A solution would end the problem. AC does not do that. In fact it is the opposite since heavier AC use leads to higher energy use which ultimately means more greenhouse gasses.

It's a band aid. It allievates the symptoms, and only for those who can afford it.

The solution is to end our production of greenhouse gasses.

If your grid is overloaded, get some solar panels and make your own power off-grid. If your air conditioner breaks, buy another one or keep a spare one on hand. That’s what the fuck I’m gonna do, because AC is great and I love having it.

Not everybody can afford that.

[–] Rufio@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you’re saying you’d be the first to die lmao

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not even close to what I was saying.

[–] Rufio@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The guy I replied to said he didn’t want to die from overheating since he doesn’t have AC.

I replied and said that they make affordable and easy to install AC now as a direct and immediate solution to his issue of not wanting to die from overheating due to not having AC.

You come along and say this is a bandaid solution and makes things worse. Okay sure, that’s true for society as a whole on a large enough timeline, but not true for this individual person in the near future.

So I interpreted this as you saying you wouldn’t install AC in his shoes, but also don’t appear to have an alternative course of action in order to not overheat and die due to not having AC, therefore you’d be the first to die.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So I interpreted this as you saying you wouldn’t install AC in his shoes, but also don’t appear to have an alternative course of action in order to not overheat and die due to not having AC, therefore you’d be the first to die.

And that's not what I said.

[–] Rufio@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

Okay thanks for contributing nothing

[–] joborun@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should get some guns then, if it is the only room with A/C, I see the country moving into the room and you moving out the window.

[–] WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

This is why all climate change predictions come with predictions for escalated war, famine, violence. Human 'civilization' may have just been a result of a resource glut.