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It's really cool. The people are super nice and welcoming. The cities are incredible. Their cost of living is leaps and bounds better than ours. Life is affordable there.
They just got it better. The cold war propaganda we've been spoonfed from birth was all lies.
We are the bad place.
Crazy how effective this propaganda is. Median Chinese salary is 5 USD/hour. Now 5x every chinese price you see to get really cost and revisit your comment.
China is a gigantic country, larger than the USA, that was still aggrarian just 50 years ago. They are still developing and there is a large disparity in earning between the developed coastal areas in the east, and the undeveloped west. The prices you see on the app a from the coastal areas where salaries are similar to western Europe.
No it's not and it's incredibly easy to verify so I don't understand why would you just lie. US salaries are incredibly high so very few countries can actually compare and coast China definitely doesn't.
I can speak from experience in tech sector how incredibly tiny Shenzen salaries are even today compared to everything else as I get recruitment offers almost every week. 60k/year is basically peak salary you can get as a senior software dev compared to 100-300k in US.
Here one source says avg annual income in Shenzen is 24,000 USD vs for example Denver of 94,157 USD — 4 times higher and that's Denver not San Francisco which would be the mirror of Shenzen.
I'm not an american or chinese but I know how to read data and it's pretty fucking clear here.
Yeah, sure. Just because one team is bad doesn't mean the other is good. There is a lot of poverty, exploitation and general shit happening "there".
They've eliminated extreme poverty and are on track to eliminate poverty. Given even the poorest citizens don't worry about rent or medical bills or food costs, their poverty looks incredibly different to that in the US.
Yeah they eliminated poverty the same way they defeated COVID... By just saying they did and people like yourself slurp it up without a second of critical thought.
No, you people choose to be ignorant and believe the US government, instead of visiting China yourself or talking to someone in China or doing any research.
Even the CIA, by the way, has stated China has eliminated extreme poverty in the world Factbook.
I get it, a lot of rich white people paid for you to be the way you are; it's still your fault to remain ignorant.
How do you know?
Friends of mine lived a year or so in China. It was very harsh and the people were not very welcoming. That's not strange as people tend to be like that towards strangers immigrating. But it's no utopia you can fit into easily.