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[–] BothsidesistFraud@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This is a statistical fact that has basically no bearing on most individuals.

Risk of death in a motor vehicle crash is affected by a ton of factors, most of them within your control.

For example I live in a walkable city and I pay attention at crosswalks. When I drive, it's mostly daytime highway driving in a well-maintained vehicle with the driver (me) not impaired. All this alone reduces my risk by orders of magnitude.

At the same time there are people who are out there drunk driving on 2-lane roads and highways every weekend.

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

So you're saying it's ~~always~~ the victims' fault when they die in a car crash? Edit: eliminated a problem word to avoid pedantry

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

I think they said they try hard not to be hit, and they hard not to be a driver who hits someone

They also said other drivers are less safe

A charitable way of reading it is it is telling you that you really should watch out for the bad drivers which won't be them

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The best I can do is that they didn't consider the factors that led to every person needing to be behind the wheel of a car as an almost daily occurrence in the first place. "Bad drivers" is a cop out that doesn't help anybody but the automotive industry.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Don't you agree that we should be careful while we work to make things better and safer?

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I think that our first concern should be for helping our people rather than pointing fingers at them. It's always somebody else whose life isn't worth caring about or mobilizing for because they were just a bad person behaving wrongly. It's always just a statistic. Until it happens to you. Do not fall for it.

Nobody chooses to die or even to kill in an accident. Every one of us is victim to the system, most of all when we die as a product of it. We are not machines. Nobody should have to take part in such an authoritarian system that their risk of death is increased simply for being and acting human.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

Nice deflection from a simple question

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

They literally said "most", which is not "always".

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh, so just most of the victims have victimized themselves. Got it.

[–] ANTIGERMGERM@lemmy.wtf 2 points 2 days ago

"I'm not saying all rape victims deserved it but most wore a skirt at night"

[–] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Same thing with riding motorcycles. I hear so often "don't you know how dangerous it is?! Look at the statistics!" And yeah, it is objectively dangerous but by wearing proper gear and not being a complete idiot you can remove yourself from most of the statistics. Motorcycles attract a disproportionately thrill-seeking population, which makes motorcycles as a whole seem more dangerous than they are. If the people on bikes who are running red lights and doing 120 on the interstate didn't have motorcycles they'd be running red lights and doing 120 on the interstate in cars and dying that way instead.

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Most of my close calls were my fault. Other drivers, though, scare the hell out me. Maneuvering around motorcycles isn't too common so you end up being a snag in someone's driving habit.