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[โ€“] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world -2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I agree. There seems to be some underlying attitude from the guardian that people should be outraged because she is old or ill?

The curfew scheme is a way to try and reduce the prison population due to costs, not soenthing that she was specifically sentenced to nor some entitlement. She was sentenced to jail, she was eligible for the curfew scheme but she cannot wear the monitoring tag, so - like other people - she has to serve her sentence.

Ultimately she commited a crime and was convicted and sentenced. She pleaded guilty to the crime.

People are also trying to make out that it's wrong to imprison people for peaceful protest. They're being imprisoned for public nuisance - that sounds like nothing but they attempted to block the M25 motorway and create gridlock in southern England. They're lucky they didn't get charged with more - public nusience charges IS the lenient treatment.

Blocking the m25 is not just "a few delays" as some of the press have decided to report it, that's potential chaos on an unprecedented scale. It is not just a slight inconvenience - motorways are major routes for the emergency services as well as the public, and the people who may have got stuck in serious jams may have included sick and vulnerable people. Would we be sympathetic if they'd succeeded and someone died in their car from a heart attack, or a pregnant lady was forced to give birth on the M25, or a diabetic had a crisis and couldn't be reached by emergency services? And all that's before we even consider the economic impact of they'd succeeded.

We need to be clear the plan was not just a small traffic jam - it was gridlock of the major motorways which was to last days. So people may have been stuck in their cars for days on the M25 and other roads as the emergency services tried to sort the chaos.

They're lucky they only got charged with public nusience and not under the anti-terror legislation. Would we be expected to be sympathetic to attempts to shut the M25 if it had been done by Jihadists? I don't think it'd be called "peaceful protest" then.

[โ€“] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It's called non violent civil disobedience and it's part of a movement to pressure the government to act on the climate crisis.

You don't have to like it. But if you want activists to give up on shit like this, one very effective way would be to get the government to act on the climate crisis. There would be no nuisance then, and the government would be acting on the climate crisis. So win win.

So what are you doing to get the government to act on the climate crisis?

Should I repeat the words GET THE FUCKING GOVERNMENT TO FUCKING ACT ON THE FUCKING CLIMATE CRISIS or you get the fucking point?