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[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Germany just raised the nationwide ticket from 49 to 58€, awesome.

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 6 points 4 days ago

D-ticket was well intentioned but a bad idea from the start. Discalimer: not a German and I only used it once (well twice because it was impossible to buy just one month)

The administrative overhead of centrally gathering all the funds and then portioning them to individual agencies must be hell. And according to what criteria? It makes the responsibility for funding even more murky than it is. Regional tickets also have to keep existing so it means the entire old ticketing system must remain functional even though few people are using it.

Germany led the way on tariff integration with it's "Verkehrsverbund". The difference being that service planning and ticketing were done by the same agency. Involving the central government doesn't seem like a good idea, sooner or later national politics will start influencing local transit.

[–] Oneser@lemm.ee 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

For a year? Still seems cheap!

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 8 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Per month.

And it already was so expensive before that most customers were those who had (more expensive, regional) tickets before.

It seems like they want to drive up the price until hardly anyone uses it anymore and then drop it for lack of demand.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You call that expensive? That's still only 2/3 what a monthly transit pass costs in my city in the US.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

And they probably have higher frequency and shorter transit travel times compared to most US cities

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 4 days ago

It certainly attracted me as a tourist to Germany. I travelled a lot in Germany in the last few years, probably wouldn't have (as much) if train rides had cost as much as before the Deutschlandticket.

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That's how it was done in US. Also created a strong car brain that is nearly impossible to argue with. Just need to upgrade the trains until they are the better option then they will start understanding.

They do like EU trains but some how it doesn't connect that we could have them here outside of NE

[–] clickyello@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

North East, but really ne to mid Atlantic. Ie Boston to DC

[–] clickyello@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

ah yeah fair, I used to live near Boston and while it was MUCH better than where I am now (near Atlanta) it wasn't even close to European standards

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 4 days ago

Facts but that's about the best we got lol

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