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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That was a serious question. If things are okay just because we like them and not okay just because we don't then what kind of morals are acting on? Yeah it came because I was frustrated that people can't seem to get off trying to evade the idea of glorification. But it's still serious, if your knee jerk reaction is to say it's not a glorification because it's justified then you run a real risk that vigilantism is only part of. Authoritarian states work the same way.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If things are okay just because we like them and not okay just because we don’t

That's not the situation, nor what anyone is asserting. Who are you talking to?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I see that all over this thread and this issue.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

No because it was warranted and deserved. Take a look around, this is not an edgy opinion. The majority of Americans feel the way I do, why is that?

I am one of the most non-violent people. I've never struck a person in 35 years of life. The only time violence is warranted is when it is a response to violence. Social murder warrants actual murder. Tens of thousands dead vs one CEO dead. You are crying about the wrong death

From just above. Literally the person who made me ask that question. And sure enough it's a call to mob violence while maintaining they are non violent. This is how this shit gets out of hand.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

None of that amounts to this:

If things are okay just because we like them and not okay just because we don’t then what kind of morals are acting on?

The reasons this was justifiable have been explained to you ad nauseum. You insist on pretending like its an arbitrary whim despite that. Do you cry every time a drug cartel kingpin gets shot?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They literally appealed to the band wagon and a nebulous concept of "social murder".

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You absolutely suck at articulating a point. Here, let me do it for you: the problem with vigilante justice is that the lack of a process around who gets got means that eventually someone is going to kill someone who didn't deserve it. While Brian Thompson was a worthless parasite who literally thrived based on how much he could increase human suffering, the answer is to reform the systems that allow him to exist, rather than calling for random people to take matters entirely into their own hands and kill whomever they deem unworthy of life. The answer is to bring genuine health care reform into the democratic realm and get to a point where health insurance companies that have a direct profit-motive to deny as many claims as possible either do not exist, or are regulated to within an inch of their lives.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

That's a great point but if you look at some of my other comments here, it's not the one I'm making. I am against mob violence. But by articulating our limits we can also limit the possibility that this spills over into higher level mob violence that targets the hated person of the day.