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[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Russia promised to not invade, or rape or pillage... But yeah, west bad because isn't helping enough.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Ukraine promised to implement Minsk and stop ethnic cleansing in Donbas for 8 years. Then western leaders came out and said that the purpose of Minsk agreements was to give Ukraine more time to arm.

Meanwhile, the fact that it was the west who sabotaged the peace deal two months in is a well documented fact

It's incredible that anybody could be so utterly dishonest to characterize this as helping Ukraine.

[–] random@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

the us maybe don't care about ukraine, but ukraine knows that and still sides with the west, why? because russia is the bigger threat to them

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] random@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

probably good considering that they would be part of the russian empire if they didn't fight back

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Did you just wake up from a 120 year coma?

[–] random@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

nope, putin wants to "reunite the empire"

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Source for that quote?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

The west literally overthrew a democratically elected government in Ukraine to put in a fascist regime. The regime is the biggest threat to people of Ukraine and they know it. This is why nobody is actually signing up to fight this war. The reality is that people are being gang pressed into fighting by the nazis https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/15/world/europe/ukraine-military-recruitment.html

In fact, according to Bloomberg, the share of forcibly mobilized soldiers in the Ukrainian army is 75% https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-20/ukraine-s-fight-against-russia-bolstered-by-millionaire-s-brigade