From my experience living in a very socialist country; fair housing can be handled by rules instead of 'nationalizing'. So the rules and pricing around them would be handled by the government, but not the houses themselves.

A big one I'm missing is schools.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Fair enough, and yes. Education should definitely be on the list

[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah just add schools that but also let private schools to exist

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah sure, allowing both nationalized and privatized sectors to coexist can lead to positive stuff.

[–] killingspark@feddit.org 9 points 2 weeks ago

It's a great way for the rich to segregate themselves from the poor

[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Wait what is that sarcastic? I don't get it. For us there is co existance of govt. and private schools, and both are being used by the public

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Any time this happens it leads to greater social stratification.

[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Uh why?

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Because one school will be better than the other. Most likely the private school, because they charge money for parents to send their kids there in addition to the money they (unfairly) get from the government. So families with more money are more likely to send a kid to private school, which immediately creates social stratification between the private school kids and the public school kids.

The private school kids will perceive this inequity, even subconsciously, and internalize that they are better than the public school kids on some level. Often the private schools are religious too which is another can of worms.

I could keep going but I think that's enough to get the point. Private schools shouldn't exist. All the money given to them should be given to public schools so they are better for every kid no matter how much money their parents make.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I'm mostly talking in the general sense.

In my country there are a few private schools but employers don't care for them. They need to follow the official curriculum and the students will have to do the same official tests at the end of the year.

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Allow private schools to exist but regulate them and give them no public funding.

[–] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If private schools are going to exist they should have a minimum curriculum actually enforced so that students attending them aren't put at a disadvantage.

For example, sex education should be required as part of health and human biology. Not it's own separate, needlessly controversial thing.

Many private schools are religious and refuse to teach certain topics, or replace them with nonsense and it hurts their students.

But also don't give them tax money. They rake it with their excessive tuition already.

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I agree, that's what I meant by "regulate them and give them no public money"

[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

Yes actually I think that's what happening here