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Isn't it ironic to call them conservative as they are trying to up-end the status quo?
Comically enough, it is they who are trying to force through more liberal laws for companies which will ultimately cost the common person more.
Not sure I followed your entire meaning, but your comment is funny, because when I wrote "conservative" it left a sour taste in my mouth.
I think modern conservatives are regressive, liberals are conservative and progressives or leftists are progressive.
So yes, "conservative" parties in Canada are trying to dismantle our health care system (i.e., regress).
And the "liberal" parties aren't doing much to save it. It's hard to justify spending money on it when those same funds could go to private interests instead.
And the actual progressive parties don't get elected unless you're in BC and incompetence still fucks things up anyway.
I know what you mean, I was just discussing the variance within the terminology.
It's strange that conservatives call progressives progressive in the first place, because a true conservative would be trying to conserve what was there, and a progressive would be trying to create progress. Thus it is open admittance for them to call the other party progressive and be against it... Yet not think they are standing in the way of betterment. If they believed moving left was wrong they would call it regressive as well. But what hits as well is what you acknowledge as regressive, which is why I don't call MAGA conservatives, because they aren't. They are farther right than our country has ever been. They are trying to ratchet our country further right... Towards what? A kingdom/dictatorship is the only thing right of our past time. Makes me think they confused their red hats for coats, and want the British Empire. Maybe that's why Trump made the dumb joke about Canada becoming a state.
After all, nothing says let's conserve what we have, than saying we should get rid of 75% of government agencies.
The MAGA slogan itself tells you that they are regressive. They want to go back to something else (that was great).
And by shifting the Overton Window hard the the right, they are turning "progressive" into a slur. Helping them with that is attacking social issues like LGBTQ+, because simple people with simple lives don't give a fuck about social issues and REGRESSIVES weaponize that and turn it into a culture war (while somehow saying PROGRESSIVEs created the culture war?). Supporting human rights has become a poison pill placed BY REGRESSIVES for anyone who has some human decency.
I wish we could just call the apple an apple and say fascists, liberals, and progressives. But nobody knows what political words mean anymore, and this is the fault of the political class watering down or outright misnaming things. The regressives want to go back to a time where things were better. This time is a fucking fiction. I want to go to where a single income could buy a house and a car, with much less racism and sexism, but that's not what they want.