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Seriously though, don't do violence.

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[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 44 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Violence gave us (the US) freedom from being a colony, freedom from slavery, workers rights, women's rights.....wait a minute.

Why do we get told to not do violence again? Seems like we just need a little bit of organized violence and we can solve problems.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Because violence is a tragedy and in an ideal world there would be no need for it. However, fewer and fewer people these days can pretend we live in an ideal world.

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I do think, ideally, we should be able to resolve disputes without violence. We don't live in that world though. Mainly because people that have a lot power and resources worked to keep it that way. They actively work against progress.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

And those people will use violence to continue their oppressive rule.

[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 1 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Equivocation much? By your logic either idiots set the standards or it's morally defensible to attack people who kill us slowly.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I do think it's morally defensible for an oppressed group to direct violence toward their oppressors. It's also a tragedy that it comes to that but tragedy and justice are not mutually exclusive. I also think only an idiot would accept the standards in which we are expected to live, therefore to demand satisfaction with such standards would be idiotic.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

It doesn't really sound like we disagree about anything. Pardon my earlier tone. I should have been mellower, or at least funnier.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Violence is the one true power from which all other powers are derived.