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That’s why I feel progress should be made by leveraging capitalism instead of nuking it.
It's already been tried with social democracies. They cannot last because capitalism is inherently rapacious by nature and tends to maximize the extraction of surplus value in the long run.
Seems to be working well in the Nordics. Or does that not fit the definition?
You have to ask "At whose expense?"
Ok, I'll play.
At whose expense?
Sorry, just saw this. The answer is at the expense of the global south. Those social democracies still have companies that profit off of the labor and resources of the global south.
Definitely. Is there anywhere that doesn't profit off the labor and resources of the global south though? Even in the global south? The few social democracies that exist, if you can even call them that, benefit in this way but also by taxing the rich and the corporations for the benefit of all their citizens.
You mean the same countries that have been having issues with managing the growing number of immigrants and the strain they put on the welfare system?
Oh yeah migration is going to become world war insanity. You think unfettered capitalism deals with migrants better? They're already ceding land to the federal government in Texas for ~~concentration camps~~ deportation centers.
You aren't talking to a stan for capitalism.
Good. What's your idea for a solution?
First of all, raising consciousness among the workers and making them aware of the jarring contradiction between what is laid out in texts such as the Constitution or even simple collective bargaining agreements and then pushing for a redistribution of wealth through really progressive taxation and the defunding of the police in favor of more inclusive ones.
But, you know, subverting a mode of production that is centuries old may take some time.
Wait... are you talking about the Nordics ore just Sweden?
Mostly Quarto Oggiaro, sometimes Bovisa in the weekend.
I absolutely agree
Capitalism tries to nuke itself that's why it's often heavily regulated. It's only positive is that it allows for rapid production. Which is also it's greatest drawback.
What if it's impossible to leverage it without falling into a cyberpunk dystopia?
Oh boy I have a lemmy instance for you then
No, you don't. You love creating strange monsters and then quelling them to make your arts seem something, as Jonson brilliantly put it. I prefer thinking that things can be changed by the people who need change the most instead of hoping for utter sociopaths to discover an empathy they've never shown proof of.
Why do you think this means I don't have a lemmy instance for them? Also you sound like a bot