MeanwhileOnGrad
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Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
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Basic Rules:
Sh.itjust.works Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules. — Basically, don't be a dick.
Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.
Apologia — (Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.
Revisionism — No downplaying or denying atrocities past and present. Calling Tankies shills, foreign/federal agents, or bots also falls under this rule. Extremists exist. They are real. Do not call them shills or fake users as it handwaves their extremism.
Tankies can explain their views but may be criticised or attacked for them. Any slight infraction on the rules above will immediately earn a warning and possibly a ban.
Off-topic Discussion — Do not discuss unrelated topics to the point of derailing the thread. Stay focused on the direct content of the post as opposed to arguing.
You'll be warned if you're violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically only last 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction will double the amount. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.
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FYI, any site bans will also automatically generate community bans for all local communities that user has ever interacted with.
It's simply the current behavior for site bans and not an admin going through communities to ban that user.
That doesn't mean the site ban is legitimate, just that the community-bans are inherent to any site-bans.
Yeah this is becoming a real problem with tech communities being hosted on .ml which is way to sensitive about anything remotely close to common sense. I'm very careful not to post anything political on .ml and I'm 100% threading on a knifes edge if I ever say or post anything regarding news or politics there. I will get site banned for sure.
instances apart from national ones should be more specialized to avoid this.
I've just blocked them at this point, not worth my time
That's kind of a weird way of doing it, but good to know thanks!
Honestly it's not really a good way of doing it in my opinion, seems like it could potentially spam a lot of ban messages if a user interacted with a lot of communities. Would be better if they worked on federating site bans with every community, and also federating the message in the global modlog instead of
mod banned userdomod banned user from lemmy.domain.tldor whatever the instance domain is. That way information is still communicated and you don't get problems with them being able to interact in communities on a server they were banned from. All while not spamming the modlog.Yea I'm not saying it's a great way to do this, but that's the lemmy way right now.
I think it is meant as a workaround, maybe someone implements something better eventually.
I'm hoping they implement federation of site bans, I've seen a lot of people banned from the site the community is hosted on still replying and pushing their disgusting rhetoric in comments of posts and it still continues to be federated because they don't get blocked from those communities from a site ban.
Home bans federate everywhere.
Remote bans don't, which makes sense, because otherwise lemmygrad could ban your sjw account which makes no sense.
That's kinda how they go to the workaround of banning from every community in that instance.
But then .world is still running an old version that doesn't do that anyway
Yeah that's true. I meant more that they'd carry a copy of the site ban record in all the communities hosted by that instance and federate that even when you're a remote user, it would treat it the same as a community ban from all communities on that instance but only be a single entry and most importantly would apply to every community on that instance.
The way they do it now is great but as it is the flaw is that they can participate in communities they never participated in before, which can be taken advantage of by malicious users in the same way as the old method where they weren't given community bans at all.