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[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They were never going to eradicate them entirely. But their weight in Lebanon has certainly been reduced. Even more if they break the ceasefire again

[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Their approval among there base of shias has only gone up since the conflict started, there approval among non shias has remained constant. Your assuming that Lebanese view the situation as western media portrays it with hezbollah as terrorists and the ones to blame for the destruction but:

Seventy-eight percent of Lebanese respondents said Israel's onslaught of Gaza was a "terrorist act", while only 11 percent viewed Hezbollah's attacks on northern Israel as "terrorism".

This jump in approval among there base is despite them being in government and a horrific economic situation in Lebanon, that's how much the shia in south Lebanon hate israel and its genocide in Gaza.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sorry, but that information is from 6+ months ago. Most of the general population and especially the non-shias did not feel the real fallout from Hezbollah attacking Israel until September.

The survey, conducted between February and April 2024

[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Again your assuming that the Lebanese blame hezbollah for that fallout, and not the ones actually causing it. This is a classic imperial tactic of framing the ones fighting the system as troublemakers and blaming all the destruction the empire does in the name of repression on them. The Viet cong are the reason for us napalming children, if they weren't here we wouldn't have to do that. This can work on people sympathetic to the imperial project, but people who are less sympathetic think the empire is the trouble maker and the cause for the destruction, so anyone fighting them must be good.

Think, if trump went full dictator, and then antifa blew up an ICEstapo building and then trump started bombing Portland in retaliation, would you think this is all antifas fault like fox News would be pushing. Or would you think antifas a bit extreme but trump is a tyrant who is killing way more people who i am sympathetic to.

The sympathy for Israel among Lebanese and especially among shia is near 0, so if they're looking for someone to blame it's gonna be them.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Wow that's a lot of analogies wrapped in there

Say you and your Trump-lubbin buddies are riding your lifted truck and you see a trans kid walking on the side of the road. One of your friends can't jumps off and punches them out, just because they couldn't control their need to physically fight the gay agenda any longer. You're still cheering him on when a van full of Antifa dudes pulls up and they beat the perpetrator, your buddies and yourself to a pulp. And I mean really, really pulpy. Also they bomb your truck

Sure, your hatred for Antifa and the Gay Agenda might have grown even stronger by this altercation. But would you still think your buddy attacking that kid was a smart idea? Would you follow him when he goes after the next one?

[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

Probably, this is how tribalism and war work. People will almost always side with there in group even if they are the obvious aggressor. Any attack on your in group, even in retaliation, will tend to reinforce bonds and further entrench you rather then make you "wake up" and leave the group or turn against the agitators. You want revenge and you aren't going to turn against the one guy who's shown he's willing to help you get that revenge.