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I think the problem with btrfs is that it entered the spotlight way to early. With Wayland there was time to work on a lot of the kinks before everyone started seriously switching.

On btrfs a bunch of people switched blindly and then lost data. This caused many to have a bad impression of btrfs. These days it is significantly better but because there was so much fear there is less attention paid to it and it is less widely used.

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[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

With Wayland there was time to work on a lot of the kinks before everyone started seriously switching.

Not if you were using Ubuntu in 2017 when they switched to Weston as the default display server for 17.10 and lots of people suffered a great deal from how half-baked the project was at the time. For me personally, the 17.10 upgrade failed to start the display server and I ended up reinstalling completely, then in 18.04 they set the default back to XOrg and that upgrade also failed for me, resulting in another reinstall.

I have no doubt that this single decision was responsible for a large amount of the Wayland scepticism that followed.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

People pretend Ubuntu is this great thing but in reality it hasn't been great in 15 years.

[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 2 points 1 month ago

@possiblylinux127 @drspod Expect a comment like this from Lemmy, bet you're running Windows 11, I've got servers running Ubuntu 24.04, 22.04, 20.04, Debian Bookworm, Mint, MxLinux, Zorin, Fedora, Alma, Rocky, and Manjaro, the Ubuntu machines consistently give me less headaches even though I do have to purge them of snapd.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago

Out of all distros I've tried over the years, Ubuntu has always been the buggiest by far.

[–] tekato@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not if you were using Ubuntu in 2017 when they switched to Weston as the default display server for 17.10

Do you have any source on Ubuntu using Weston as its default? As far as I know Ubuntu has always been GNOME, which doesn’t use Weston.

[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I stated the version number (17.10), the release notes are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseNotes

[–] tekato@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, the release notes you linked do not mention Weston at all.

[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

CTRL+F, "wayland", 1 of 3 matches

are you being deliberately obtuse or do you expect other people to do everything for you?

[–] tekato@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

You said:

Not if you were using Ubuntu in 2017 when they switched to Weston as the default display server for 17.10 and lots of people suffered a great deal from how half-baked the project was at the time.

I said:

Yes, the release notes you linked do not mention Weston at all.

Unless you think Wayland is the same as Weston, I don’t see how you think I’m being “deliberately obtuse”.

[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com -1 points 1 month ago

@drspod @possiblylinux127 Since I am using Intel graphics and there is an Xorg X server baked into the Linux kernel for Intel graphics, I switched to it at that time and have been using it ever since.