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Are people aware that they can buy a smart TV and never conntect it to wi-fi and never plug in the ethernet? There is no risk if TV never gets an IP.
It's possible a smart TV will use its wifi to connect to another device of the same brand on its own. I'd read an article about it a couple years ago.
If I'm reading about it, that means a company has been working on it, and frankly it makes sense. If I were in their shoes I'd look into making it happen. It's pretty trivial to do when you think about it.
Not that I think it's happening in the wild, just an idea to keep in mind.
Also, those devices are always capturing data. So if/when they ever connect, that data will get uploaded.
I'll just connect it to my LAN only wifi network. No way in no way out.
I think what they were talking about is the TV actively scanning for similar models and connecting to those to reach the internet. I’ve read similar articles showing how smart TVs will even connect to an open WiFi network to try to get online.
All this would bypass your LAN restrictions of course.
There is no meaningful data for the OS to capture if it used as a display for externally connected devices.
The only way to have 100% privacy on all devices is not have internet service.
Many tvs have microphones built into them or their remotes.
Some are even sending screenshots of what they are displaying to their backend servers.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2449198-smart-tvs-take-snapshots-of-what-you-watch-multiple-times-per-second/
I guess that you cannot read well so I will say it plainly, when a TV has no access to the outside internet over the lifespan of the TV, zero information or files will ever be uploaded and will stay on TV with no external copy existing anymore.
This seems to be the key bit of the comment.
Outside of the examples listed, a more reasonable possibility is if someone else in your home (ex. A family member) connects it to the network. Also even if it doesn't automatically connect to a public network, well placed popups can also lead to mistakes.
Yoy can dream up every fantasy scenerio you want until you are butt stupid, it does not make it plausible.
Have you missed the other comments? It’s pretty well documented that the TV will either find a similar brand TV to connect to (and reach the internet) or as I’ve read, it’ll find an open WiFi network to do so.
Except that some of these devices are periodically "screenshotting" the screen and harvesting data from that.
Pair that with automatically connecting to open wifi networks and nothing is truly safe.
Username checks out. Your own article you linked dispels this.
Some actively listen with a microphone though.
Not everywhere, like Europe
Are you sure?
This. I have a nice 4k 120hz 'smart TV' that is not connected to anything. I use it only as a display for PC with external speakers. I'm pretty sure you can even do firmware updates without connecting anything but USB drive. Even if you have to connect to get updates, you can just disconnect it afterwards.
I might resort to this. It's mainly just the e-waste potential that has me bothered. The OS will inevitable break after EOL, and the hardware becomes inoperable without the "hdmi-app". The computer parts are usually dirt cheap and eventually break themselves even on minimal use.
Yes, plugin ethernet, install updates, unplug ethernet, never connect it to wi-fi, there is no risk to privacy.