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Bcachefs Changes Rejected Reportedly Due To CoC, Kernel Future "Uncertain" (www.phoronix.com)

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Bcachefs lead developer Kent Overstreet published a Patreon post this evening entitled "Trouble in the kernel" where he explained:

"TLDR: the future of bcachefs in the kernel is uncertain, and lots of things aren't looking good.

Linus has said he isn't accepting my 6.13 pull request, per "an open issue with the CoC board", and at this point I have no idea what's going on with the CoC board. I, for my part, have felt for quite some time that there are issues about our culture and the way we do work that need to be raised, and that hasn't been going anywhere - hence this post."

It appears that the source of this violation can be found in this Linux kernel mailing list thread.

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[–] angel@sopuli.xyz 49 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Get your head examined. And get the fuck out of here with this shit.

Yes, language like this is clearly unacceptable in a productive discussion.

Offtopic, but this reminded me that the Linux kernel has a CoC. Aren't the recent comments by Linus on the removal of russian maintainers, where he called several kernel developers paid actors, a CoC violation as well? Or have these comments w.r.t. to the CoC already been discussed?

[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

where he called several kernel developers paid actors

He didn't. He (rightly) called out people who have never contributed to the kernel and posted flame replies to the initial announcement on the mailing list.

This isn't some wild conspiracy theory either, this is a thing Russia actually does: cause disarray and split "western" communities; divide and conquer. It's an their explicit goal of the Kremlin to do this; there's credible accounts of that.

If you want a community that's resistant to such influences, you ought to call this sort of thing out whenever you see it.

[–] angel@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thanks for your reply! Linus didn't only call out people posting flame replies, but also folks interested in a serious discussion on that topic, who also contributed to the kernel before (see PeterCxy's blog: https://typeblog.net/55833/getting-called-paid-actor-by-linus-torvalds). Most people simply wanted to know specifically which compliance requirement lead to the removal of russian maintainers. Linus never responded to these questions and called out people asking for that as russian trolls. AFAIK we still don’t know the exact reasons for the removal, which is just intransparent.

IMO By not answering these reasonable questions and calling people out as russian trolls, Linus did exactly what russian trolls want: cause disarray in the kernel community.

[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Linus didn't only call out people posting flame replies, but also folks interested in a serious discussion on that topic, who also contributed to the kernel before (see PeterCxy's blog: https://typeblog.net/55833/getting-called-paid-actor-by-linus-torvalds).

Here's what he actually said:

I'm also not going to start discussing legal issues with random internet people who I seriously suspect are paid actors and/or have been riled up by them.

That's ambiguous at best.

I find it more likely that it's targetted at the greater crowd replying to that thread rather than this person specifically due to it's general tone. If Linus thinks you are full of shit, you can be that he will call you out specifically rather than wording it like this.

AFAIK we still don’t know the exact reasons for the removal, which is just intransparent.

We do: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-Compliance-Requirements.