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[–] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

but what about Taiwan

You mean the island where the fascist fled after they lost the Chinese civil war and now acts as a base of US military hegemony?

Hong Kong

What about Hong Kong? The UK leased it after they won a colonialist war in the 19th century. The last British governor of Hong Kong was a white dude appointed from London. What about Hong Kong?

"Only 17% of Hong Kongers say they want independence from China with just 20% saying China has abused the “one country, two systems” model to favor Beijing, a Reuters poll released on December 31 shows."

What about the treatment of minorities?

Could you give us examples?

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de -5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You mean the island where the fascist fled after they lost the Chinese civil war and now acts as a base of US military hegemony?

So what? Imperialism is suddenly okay if you don't like the ruling ideology there? That is the same logic underlying US imperialism, and coincidentally, fits the old definition of the word tankie.

What about Hong Kong?

You may recall protests being violently repressed.

Could you give us examples?

Many uighurs have been imprisoned for example.

Also your screenshot once again, just tries to prove China is awesome, because the US is bad. I'm not trying to compare the two.

What are you trying to prove to me? That China is perfect? I know you don't believe that.

[–] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So what? Imperialism is suddenly okay if you don't like the ruling ideology there?

My brother in NED, it's not just about a "ruling ideology", Taiwan is literally a US stronghold against China, and if you recall your geography lessons from high school, you might remember that the United States is in North America on the other side of the Pacific Ocean. If any country does imperialism on that side of the globe it's the USA, since Taiwan is called Republic of China, and most countries don't recognize ROC as the "true" China.

You may recall protests being violently repressed.

You may recall that the CIA literally foments colour revolutions against geopolitical rivals or countries who don't swear fealty to the US. Have you heard of Jacobo Arbenz? Mossadegh? and so on?

You may recall that hours ago I literally quoted that 83% of Hongkongers want to belong to China.

What are you trying to prove to me? That China is perfect? I know you don't believe that.

The point is, since it eludes you for some reason, is that it's pure projection from the West of accusing China of bad minority policies, when the West is worse in many many ways. Not that China is "perfect" whatever that means in real world policies, but the West want you to think China = BAD. And the only reason you do this hand-wringing about minorities in China is because US State Department think tanks implanted that thought in your head some time ago by bombarding you with anti-China propaganda.

The other point is that anarchists crying about tankies are just useful idiots, since the real threat to capitalist hegemony is the actually existing socialist countries. That's why the FBI and the CIA was always more concerned about Leninists than about anarchists.

House passes $1.6 billion to deliver anti-China propaganda overseas

It doesn't elude me that the West tries to paint China worse than it is. Although I have learned a thing or two today.