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[–] MayonnaiseArch@beehaw.org 23 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Isn't blocking a disinfo place a way of fighting disinformation? I don't get it

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 13 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Blocking an entire community, service or application blocks access to non disinformation and normal communication too. Instead fight against the specific issues. Or with your logic we need to ban every platform such as Reddit, Facebook, YouTube, Twitch, Discord and even Wikipedia. Because misinformation is everywhere.

I don't want anyone decide for myself what to use. If I want to use Twitter, that should be MY decision, not yours, not the one with the campaign here and certainly not any government.

[–] Hirom@beehaw.org 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Every service may be abused to spread misinformation. Here, the complaint isn't that people abuse a service against the owner's will, but that the service is operated to spread misinformation.

One way to address this could be to look at moderation. Is there meaningful moderation to limit misinformation? A service operated to spread misinformation wouldn't moderate it.

[–] halm@leminal.space 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

we need to ban every platform such as Reddit, Facebook, YouTube, Twitch, Discord

Now you're talking.

[–] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And Lemmy, Mastodon, Bluesky etc.

[–] halm@leminal.space 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Posting on the fediverse I sort of want to exempt those, but Bluesky can get in the sea too, yeah.

[–] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So you want to ban the platforms you dont like/use but leave the ones you do?

[–] halm@leminal.space 2 points 2 days ago

No, I use only the platforms I wouldn't want to see get lost eventually. But I see your attempt at a rhetorical gotcha, and I want to recognise that, too.

[–] millie@beehaw.org 6 points 3 days ago

I imagine that Twitter being blocked in Europe might actually lead to some of those sources moving elsewhere to continue to reach their audience. I'm not a big fan of blocking websites either in a general sense, but a I can see why countries would want to avoid having what's happening to the US be repeated within their own borders, and that seems to be a distinct danger with Twitter. There's a pretty good argument to be made that that's literally its purpose at this point.

Dismantling legitimate governments with disinformation seems like a pretty viable power grab strategy for billionaires trying to create a megacorp hellscape where they get to do whatever they want until the planet becomes uninhabitable for humans some time after their own deaths.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There needs to be due process. We can't ban a website because 10k people said it has disinformation. The DSA is the process for combatting disinformation on major platforms, and we should follow it. Twitter is already being sued under the DSA, and they will be banned in the next few months if they do not fulfill their obligations to fight disinformation.

[–] MayonnaiseArch@beehaw.org 3 points 3 days ago

Sure, that's fine - except I guess a petition is a petition. It's not binding, it's a way of expressing political will. So if a lot of people go sign it I don't see what the problem is? It's a nice way of shitting on musks neck, rubbing some in his mouth and nose. I guess we should all sign

[–] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is there no disinformation on other social media platforms?

[–] MayonnaiseArch@beehaw.org 3 points 3 days ago

I don't know. That isn't the point though, is it?