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Referring Zelenskyy as Z which is the pro-Russian war on Ukraine is offensive, isn't it? Also it's about the survival of his people, that only shows he can put his ego aside and try to appease Trump, something Trump couldn't ever do.
Oh sorry, we constantly forget Z is cursed and cancelled.
Elensky
If this were about the survival of his people then he wouldn’t have scuttled the Minsk Agreements. And he would have taken a much better peace deal ~2.5 years ago then he’ll ever get now, saving tens to hundreds of thousands of his people’s lives. But it isn’t about the Ukrainian people, it’s about the Ukrainian state and his own hide. It’s certainly not about the men being dragged off the streets by conscription squads and shoved out to the front line to die.
Russia had no reason to invade Ukraine in the first place.
Dude…. You HAD to know you were going to get the copypasta wall-of-text. There was no way this wasn’t going to happen.
Right: iT WAs uNProVoKEd!
This was an invasion that did not need to happen.
The US has wanted to Balkanize Russia ever since the fall of the Soviet Union, as laid out by Zbigniew Brzezinski in The Grand Chessboard. It especially wants to now that, under Putin’s leadership, Russia has kicked the Western neocolonial/noeliberal shock therapy plunderers out of the country.
The US used Ukraine as a pawn to engineer this confrontation, with the hopes of Russian regime change, or better still Russian Balkanization. The US wanted this war. It worked for decades to create this war, much like it worked to create the Soviet-Afghanistan war decades before, to weaken the Soviet Union. The US does this kind of thing all the time.
Imagine if Russia (or say China) were expanding its “defensive alliance”* into south & central America, and making plans to expand it further, right up to the California–Texas border, which would likely lead to “defensive” nuclear weapons right on our back porch. Maybe they’re in talks with Canada as well, in an effort to “contain” the US. And imagine also if there were a large American-speaking population in northern Mexico, which were being ethnically cleansed with tacit assistance by the Mexican government. Realistically—regardless of what is internationally legal (which the US usually ignores anyway)—what would the US do?
*NATO, BTW, is not a defensive alliance.
But the US doesn’t make Canada or Mexico regularly feel like they need to join a defensive alliance to protect themselves from the US.
Canada is a NATO member but Ukraine isn’t a CSTO member.
Davel is still deepthroating the Russian pp I see
From pagan tribes, to autocratic Princedoms, to autocratic Tsarsoms, to the CCCP, to Putin. This is what they know.
Essentialist bullshit. You may as well say, from feudalism to capitalist settler-colonial genocide & slavery to imperialism: this is all we know.
I’ll take the CCCP, or even modern Russia—as shitty as it is—over this:
Least historically illiterate shitlib
Yeah, wish we had a leader like him, no matter how you spell or abbrev his name.