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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy tells Suspilne media platform that under US president-elect Donald Trump the war in Ukraine will end quicker, according to Suspilne website.

Trump, who takes office in January, has said he’d seek a quick deal between Kyiv and Moscow.

Russian President Vladimir Putin and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz held a phone call earlier on Friday, the first direct communication between the leaders in almost two years and discussed the war in Ukraine.

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[–] MrFappy@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So Trump insists that Ukraine surrenders and Zelenskyy goes along with it I assume is what’s being said here? Now, does Ukraine give up all their land or just what the Russians have captured so they can take the rest later?

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd assume what they already captured. Also, I don't think they'll have any other option. At least it would be better than losing all the funding and weapons from the US and end up losing their whole country. Trump could very well throw a temper tantrum if they didn't agree on his "best deal in the history of mankind" as he might call it.

[–] matengor@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yes, the deal might contain a freeze-frame solution for the already captured territories. They would be declared demilitarized zones (under russian administration). In addition to that, Ukraine needs to agree not to join NATO (IMO for the next 20 years or so).

It would be a net victory for Russia.

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[–] RubicTopaz@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ukraine needs to agree not to join NATO for the next 20 years

This is just delaying the war; neither side will agree to this.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago

Why not? It gives Russia 20 years to subsume Ukraine, so they’ll be fine with it, and Ukraine will be given the choice of “take it or be cut off from all further funding.”

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The CIA for the last 4 years has reported that Russia has neither the will nor the capability to capture and hold Ukraine. The only people who are saying it are people like you. Russia will not take all of Ukraine because it does not serve them to do so and it is not militarily feasible for them to do so.