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[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Edit, phrasing.

I hate Abrahamic origin religious systems en masse, especially when states use them to justify bullshit. Goes for western countries too.

Some folks probably think I'm targeting

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Abrahamic origin

It's not like other systems have a much better track record. Shintoism was responsible for the rape of nanking, the ongoing Rohingya genocide is being done in the name of Buddhism, and take your pick of at least 2/3rds of everything the Roman empire ever did

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 7 points 5 days ago

Sure but that's not the system being discussed, I figured I'd limit my scope a bit lol.

I agree with you, and my original comment spoke to that

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

So the common denominator is: people suck.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I hate Abrahamic origin religious systems en masse

Right there with you in agreement 100%. This iron age mythology superstitious nonsense needs to be eradicated completely, and only studied academically from a sociological perspective for what it really is, myth, as well as all the pain, suffering, death and horror it has caused human beings, and still is causing. Fuck religion.

[–] BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Bronze Age 😋 #Ackchyually. Root narratives of Judaism and so the Abrahamic tradition from roughly 2000-1200 BCE

Ignore me.

[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Do you have a source for that? I would think the oldest passages of the old testament go back to the 900s at best. That's why the oldest historical figure the bible has is Pharaoh Shoshank. I'd be surprised to see if anything from before the Bronze Age Collapse made it in (besides being vaguely Semetic).

[–] wick@lemm.ee 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Yea I think you're more right, Judaism didn't kick off until the early iron age, and changed over time. But also the roots in late bronze age semetic culture are, if not significant, at least relevant depending on the conversation.

Source: theologians dunking on evangelicals on YouTube, and Wikipedia.

[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

That makes sense. I also hear that the laws of the Old Testament take considerable amount of inspiration from the Laws of Hammurabi; which was developed earlier in the Bronze Age.

[–] BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Right. Keref Hinnom is 600BCE, so a wee bit earlier than the actual reference to ol’ King Shawshank redemption. But there’s oral tradition _probably_ running as early as 1200BCE. - I was talking Abrahamic tradition (as per the dude I was replying to, so not explicitly Christianity… in which case you’re completely correct) 

https://dokumen.pub/the-abrahamic-religions-a-very-short-introduction-very-short-introductions-627-1stnbsped-9780190654368-0190654341-9780190654344.html - Cohen, Charles L., 'The Jewish matrix (1200 bce–70 ce)', The Abrahamic Religions: A Very Short Introduction”

[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

probably running as early as 1200BCE

I could agree there was something "related" by 1200BCE at the EARLIEST. After all, Judahites, Edomites, and Qederites do not even show up till 900 BC; a few hundred years after the Amorite civilization begins its downward spiral (where some of their last traces are seen in the mixed ethnic group of Palmyra which has elements of Amorites, Arameans, and Arabs mixed together -- even though they are virtually identical cultures).