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[–] derin@lemmy.beru.co 1 points 1 year ago

I understand that end to end encryption of messages alone is not good enough... For you.

The current landscape is very exciting, and I see matrix taking the correct steps in the correct direction. I don't see that with Signal.

Signal's core design isn't great for me, bordering unusable. It's peer to peer - I want the security of a server (my server) managing my shit.

As an aside: If I have one more person message me asking what happened to their signal messages, after reading a post from someone online and switching to signal for a while, I'm going to lose it. It's a platform the prefers security over usability.

On matrix I get a new device, log in, authenticate the new session from my old one, and watch as my content comes back. That's it right there. That's the magic I want.

What I don't want is "got a new device, don't have recovery keys? Fuck you."

Your desire of a secure, decentralized encrypted messaging system is shared by me, I'm just not going to trash a system that does the majority of what I want over minor concerns regarding metadata.

And the alternatives you're touting apply to you, a person whose needs are different from mine. They are unusable to me.

I hope my tone wasn't too incendiary, I'm trying to make the point that our needs are different, not that either of us is invalid.

Honestly I feel like XMPP handles the majority of what you want, why not just use that?