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[–] Glide@lemmy.ca -4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Everyone always talks like defeating Trump in the election is the end-all be-all of the disussion. Voting Democrat and preventing Trump from taking the white house should have been an obvious step. It is not the best outcome for the election, nor is it the end of the ongoing decay of late-stage capitalism into wealth-based fascism, but all this whataboutism and strawmanning Democrat voters as believing Kamala was going to single-handedly save democracy is disingenous. It was never "Plan A". It was one minor, marginally better compromise in the collective of shit we should be doing.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Voting Kamala failed. The Democrats failed to run a campaign that won. That is in the past. What I am saying is that voting Democrat did not work, so I am asking what their plan actually is, if voting Dem wasn't plan A then what is?

Leftists already have a plan that isn't contingent on winning a presidential election. Do liberals?

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, they don’t. Liberals believe that voting democrat every four years and arguing with leftists on the internet is activism.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Brunch Brigade, I call them.

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That fits nicely because it's always people who have and will continue to have enough food in their belly that they can indulge in an extra meal while indulging in fantasies like 'one more election cycle, pleeeease, I trust them to stop murdering millions of innocent people, just one more election cycle and then they'll fix everything, pleeease'.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

Just one more dem, one more election, one more liberal...

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 week ago

What's non-wealth-based fascism?