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The Amsterdam 'Pogrom' That Wasn't: Corporate Media Fails To Tell the Whole Story
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this post was submitted on 14 Nov 2024
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Well these kids say that about themselves too.
And the stuff that came out today about the telegram groups of these guys, talking about hunting Jews.
It's shitty all around. No one needs to tell me soccer supporters are grade A assholes (Yess all of them) all soccer matches should feature a post match ability for all supporters to go onto the pitch and we should televise that on pay per view to balance the budget.
It's a systemic issue going back decades. To me, it seems the Dutch government always wants to fix it with a hammer. Repeatedly. Discrimination increases, no REAL effort for integration is made (forcing people to take totally-not-racist "civic integration exams" is not an effort), and over the years the divide increases. Tell people they are monsters long enough, and that's what they'll become. But no one wants to hear that fixing it would take years or even decades of sustained effort and change. They just want it fixed. And fixed now.
There is no one magic bullet solution, unfortunately. And then it all comes to a head with the events in Amsterdam. The instigators need to be arrested and tried, but society needs to take a close look at what caused this to happen to begin with. And I doubt that will happen. Just more hammers.
The 1st generation.. the actual migrants where never integrated.. as the views of the time (by everyone) where that this was not needed. Since then the issues first festered and grew.. once it became politically divisive the left and right parties started to both try and solve it with policy that can almost be subscribes as a pendulum swinging.
One side blaming everything on the class inequality and refusing to acknowledge that there might be cultural/religious issues at play next to the class issues. While the right refuses to acknowledge the class issues, only thumping on the cultural/religious issues.
Yes, that's about right. The answer is somewhere in between
@projectmoon@lemm.ee oh hey I can see myself