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I have an article for all those questions: https://lenses.alxd.org
I skimmed the article, but I find it unsatisfactory. It focuses very much on imagining a better future, and that by doing so, we can accept and work towards it. This is fundamentally Utopian and Idealist, it doesn't emphasize a materialist foundation for how to get there beyond hoping and trying to modify the Superstructure deliberately so that the Base forms based on it. The problem with that mode of thinking is that the Base is constantly reinforcing the Superstructure projected from it, and thus the changes to the Superstructure you propose are going to be modified and even coopted by the Class in power, ie the Bourgeoisie, with little effort.
I like all the data and info you are telling here! Now I can think in a more structured way and logic about society structure. But you don't think that being able to imagine a better and sustainable future is not superstructure and all the solar-energy base, and solarpunk prompts of the literature, imagining other ways of production more anarchic and horizontal interactions between people and slow only with the necessary is not a base? It talks about means of production and relationship of production. It's already proven that better and more technology don't make us life better, but more fast and contaminated.
I know, I'm probably too idealistic, and I have to think in a more pragmatic way, but really learn about solarpunk what the first thing that let me hope in a better future in this word that is easier to think about the end of the word than the end of capitalism and I think that's important.
An imagined, hypothetical base is not a real, existing base, and thus it can't project the superstructure but be a part of an existing superstructure. That's why the existing base helps distort it and even coopt it.