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Linux has many issues, but in comparison with other operating systems the only one that actually makes it a worse option is certain apps and games not working. Sure some distros suck, but you can just use the good ones. Sure drivers can be a pain, but plenty of distros do them for you. Yeah you'll have some issues with Bluetooth or wifi or something like that sometimes, but no more often than on windows (mac too probably but I've never used Mac so idk).

Maybe you hate how windows is set up, maybe you hate how some de is set up, just use one that you like. Dont like gnome? Well despite many distros using it, it is not the only option. Try kde, try cinnamon (I hate it but it would be unfair to ignore it), try cosmic when it comes out or popshell in the meantime. Don't want to lose your current os and be stuck here? Use a VM or dual boot.

All that works fine, it just takes a second to set things up how you want them to be and then you can just use your computer. With a "beginner" distro (I'd recommend pop os, tuxedo os, or mint) cli should be optional in everything you'd actually be doing. The only thing that is a genuine problem with Linux as a whole is that a lot of apps and games just aren't compatible, be they a less popular app who's users rely on it or a really popular game that refuses to enable Linux compatibility in EAC.

I know that projects like wine (and proton) are around and are making a lot of progress here, but this problem still remains the only one that an average user with a distro intended for normal use will be expected to deal with. What do y'all think?

Edit: fixed(?) spacing, hopefully it's easier to read now

Edit 2: wanted to add that as far as I've seen, most of the time people have like one app that doesn't work or doesn't work properly while everything else works fine, and they are either unable or unwilling to switch.

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[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

I agree.

For people like us, we just adapt. Mainstream users don't, and the most popular software is currently unsupported:

Apps

  • Adobe
  • Autodesk
  • Microsoft Office
  • QuickBooks, Quicken, TurboTax
  • FL studio
  • Ableton Live
  • Solidworks
  • Final draft
  • SketchUp

Games

  • Fortnite
  • FIFA
  • Apex
  • Valorant
  • LOL
  • Madden
  • GTA
  • Valorant
  • Rainbow Six Siege
  • Destiny 2
  • Roblox
[–] Chickerino@feddit.nl 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

hey fl studio runs fairly well in wine, ive done full projects with some third party plugins and it was usuable, only issue was lowered performance andvitall's graphics were flickering

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A lot of these apps CAN run to different degrees, but the process to get it done isn't straightforward enough for normal users who expect to download it from the app store or the official web page and just click the installer, on top of that... there's the possibility that it could stop working anytime, since it is officially unsupported. If people depend on the app, they won't change the app, they just won't switch to Linux.

[–] Chickerino@feddit.nl 1 points 14 hours ago

yeeeaaa, technically it should be as easy as installing wine and then just running exes, but wine doesnt install some fonts/dependencies by default (which is the whole reason lutris/bottles/proton exists) and may not have all the necesary api calls for some apps, pain in the arse, can we just get user friendly wine plzzz

[–] Uebercomplicated@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fair enough. FYI I have played Apex and Rainbow on Linux before, without issue. As for Riot games: LOL → Dota, Valorant (shows up twice in your list) → CS2. It's true that a tun of big-budget software is purposely made unavailable to the Linux community, and I'll always forgive someone who can't switch because of these wretched companies, but do note that I was a Valorant player before I 100% gave up Windows. I sucked it up and stopped playing. Worth it.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah but the thing about being unsupported is that they can pull the plug anytime, like it happened with Apex.

I also let go things from my Windows past, namely the Adobe suite which I depended on for work. I freaking love Inkscape now more than Illustrator.

But normal users won't suck anything up.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In the professional space:

Add Altium, KNX, pspice, LTSpice (luckily works in wine), and for us electronics/electric guys lol.

Linux is a 3rd class citizen in ANSYS simulation tools. Slow updates, old UI, etc... On Linux. Pretty much only used as a simulation node for kicking on sims from windows since Linux machines can be >1TB RAM + 144± core powerhouses where windows sucks on those type of machines.

Pretty much all architecture software

Many ERP systems desktop apps

Not to mention a lot of companies use active directory for access control + sharepoint

Web apps suck, but have been very helpful in Linux compatibility in the enterprise space since the devs only have to care about 1 set of production builds.

At my work, software guys and mechatronics PLC focused guys get away with Ubuntu (saleae is great), but for electronics and mechanicals it is not even worth it to dual boot.

Autodesk Maya actually has a Linux version. I was surprised to learn this.