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The movement to swear off men: No sex. No dating. No marriage. No children. (19thnews.org)

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In the hours following former President Donald Trump’s election victory, Google searches related to 4B — a fringe South Korean feminist movement that made a name for itself in the mid to late 2010s — surged in the United States.

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

No, I didn't really care in the first place, and I didn't feel like explaining how introducing a change (say, separating women and men) might have an effect that not introducing that change wouldn't. The default state has been men and women having relationships, for the entirety of history. Women didn't suddenly start having more sex with men in the last 4 years, so you wouldn't expect to see any change in voting demographics based on that no change. I care even less now, because we're so deep in these replies that I don't expect even one other person to read this paragraph. We may as well be arguing in DMs, which I don't do.

My assertion that it doesn't matter in the first place is because the 4B movement has existed in Korea for years, and hasn't successfully affected political change. I suppose I could have clarified that my hypothesis about a successful 4B movement is predicated on there being a successful 4B movement, and my dismissal of it as a way to affect political change is based on the fact that it demonstrably does not affect political change.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Yes you care so little you had to write a paragraph about it. It's definitely not a cope for losing.

You claim that in South Korea, 4B had no effect. Now you claim it will have an effect in the US. Why the difference? Please note we both agree that 4B has no effect on whether or not men will harm women.

Since the advent of birth control, which kicked off the free love movement, women have increasingly been having more sex, with a peak shortly around the release of Tinder and for about 5yrs after that. Women have since become less sexual and are abstaining more these days, especially young women.

You'd have to pay me to DM me. I'm not asking to DM.

Political by definition:

relating to the government or the public affairs of a country. relating to the ideas or strategies of a particular party or group in politics.

As a political movement for women, like you know, if you consider women people, 4B is highly effective. It's letting women tell other women about these issues. It's popular with women. Maybe 4B just isn't about men.