Bedrock is pretty full of microtransactions, upsells, and ads, and the Mojang to Microsoft account migration for Java made a lot of people lose their accounts entirely.

But the core gameplay of both editions is still fine, and Java is consistently getting more mod-friendly with each release. You also don't actually have to buy anything in Bedrock; it's mostly just annoying.

I don't really agree that Minecraft is getting enshittified, but I can see why others might.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago

And the whole chat censoring thing, and Microsoft doubling down on banning players on all servers for chat content in their own private servers.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

bedrock was shit version from start, any respectable Minecraft player uses Java version.

[–] RidderSport@feddit.org 4 points 4 days ago

I would also prefer to play on Java, however cross-platform support with Bedrock works really well. And that is actually quite the benefit. That way I can actually for once play a game with friends that are on other consoles or even on mobile.

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Holup, they still continuing java version support?

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 10 points 4 days ago

Yep

[–] CodingCarpenter@lemm.ee 4 points 4 days ago

You can avoid the transactions, but they really lure the kids in. I have to constantly tell my kid I'm not paying for that crap it's exhausting

[–] clif@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

and the Mojang to Microsoft account migration for Java made a lot of people lose their accounts entirely.

Hey, it's me. I contacted support and got a list of info they needed to fix it. I responded with that info and got a reply from a different person with a list of info they needed to fix it. I responded with that info and got a reply from a different person with a list of info they needed to fix it.

Then I said said "fuck this shit" and gave up to never play again.

EDIT: You probably guessed, but I should clarify that it was the same list of info, verbatim, each time. Just copy/paste response without reading that I'd already supplied it.

[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Windows was enshittified decades before it was even a concept. Grandaddy of enshittification.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 7 points 4 days ago

gotta maintain that backwards compatible enshitification

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 days ago

when bedrock edition was introduced, I’d say

the marketplace, character creator and partnered servers all have very predatory monetization

thankfully java resisted enshittification for the most part

[–] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 7 points 4 days ago

When they forced you to have a Microsoft account, which inturn made me loose my Minecraft account.

[–] Nyciferi@kbin.melroy.org 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The day Microsoft bought it.

Man I remembered some silly people who said "They aren't going to make us have to use Microsoft accounts to still play!".

Boy, did Microsoft did in fact do that.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Damn, didn't know that. I think I only played locally, but it was years ago. Do you need to sign in to play offline?

[–] puppycat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

unless you're playing offline on a cracked version, AFAIK

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

That's a pity. I had play stations. My fiancee has an Xbox. With games like that, if she is playing on her Xbox, can she use the same license in the Xbox app that Windows throws in everyone's face? Or perhaps if I sat down at a computer, can we both play the same place. (Cross play I guess I mean)

[–] puppycat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

with Xbox being owned by Microsoft I'm not sure how that works anymore haha

consoles, phones (mobile does require Microsoft sign in now for online), basically anything that isn't downloaded from the PC launcher runs bedrock (which you can download on PC as well, originally called windows 10 edition but now I think it's just in the all-in-one PC minecraft launcher) it's been a while since i last played on PlayStation but I could play online multiplayer without a Microsoft account, it may or may not be the same on Xbox.

also I just have to share my opinion that if you're capable of playing split screen with someone (with almost everything being online and long distance nowadays the opportunities keep getting rarer) it's so much more fun. so my suggestion is to cozy up on the couch with your fiancee and a blanket and grab a couple Xbox controllers =p

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah that's the only way I've played co-op for Minecraft, on the couch. We had a good run of playing ARK together like that for a bit as well. But the controls for co-op have a few issues. If you go to the inventory or upgrades, the buttons for the other player will start to get wonky in their inventory or upgrades. Usually you all together can't press buttons at all and have to exit until the other player finishes. If you look through a scope, it zooms on the other person's screen as well, strange flaws that you would think they would have fixed but never did after many updates. Almost forgot. You might get yanked across the map and drown or not be able to see underwater if the other player gets to far or isn't in the water. Think they fixed the water thing now, haven't tried it yet though

But if you have a PlayStation, a short game that I really liked was "A Way Out". Its a couch co-op jailbreak game. It was made really well I think. The screen even resizes giving each player "priority" parts where it intentionally makes one player take the lead and the other support. Never played another game that did co op so well.

[–] puppycat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

oh jeez, I knew minecraft really got enshittified but I didn't think it was that bad, even on bugrock edition

I'll make sure to check it out, thanks for the recommendation :)

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I was talking about the controls in ARK doing that. It's a survival game where you tame dinosaurs and raise them up in strength. Flying, swimming. Running around on raptors as well. I only ever played offline, but there are online games where people build giant bases put of gates, turrets, crazy things. Then you get someone riding a megalodon with a makeshift scuba mask. It can be fun. There is a TV show I think now about it.

https://survivetheark.com/index.php?/articles.html/ark-survival-ascended-is-live-on-steam-r2180/

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago

Yes. You can still use Pojav Launcher on Android for free, but to join uncracked servers you need to sign into a Microsoft account

[–] officermike@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Can't speak for OP, but I took a maybe ten-year hiatus from Minecraft and came back to find the were so baby more block types that it clogged my inventory and I felt overwhelmed and just stopped playing again.

[–] trespasser69@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Micro$oft made some controversies on Minecraft (Minecraft owned by M$)