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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world
 

Poor one out for all your LGBTQ+ homies in America, they're about to be hunted for sport.

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Why do you think the turnout was so low? Millions of idiots were pressuring people to withhold their vote over Palestine in a colossal self-fuck. That is if you assume these people spreading that are really that stupid. Some were, but I think a large percentage were paid trolls. And their campaigning worked. Russia owns the United States now

[–] normal_user@lemmy.one 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I see, so in order to save "democracy" people should have supported Genocide.

Honeslty maybe the Democrats should have seen this coming to themselves for supporting, and I will repeat it once more in case you don't understand, GENOCIDE.

Imagine voting for 100% Hitler because another guy could be 150% Hitler.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm on this kick of pointing out that the utilitarian ethical calculation still works with 100% Hitler and 100.1% Hitler. Harm minimization, baby!

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

yeah its why no some takes utilitarian's seriously. Hi friend I have this new policy where you give me your left arm and I don't take your legs!

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You say that, but "vote blue no matter who" is exactly this argument under the paint.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

And I've been telling people for years thats a terrible fucking saying as well. (Also notice how little play that saying had this cycle.) Statistically speaking you may have lost your arm but you'll still have the ability to write and walk! Sorry left handies! Nothing can be done for you! (Left handies are the arabs in the gaza story, lgbt in others etc)

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Another contributor to low turnout was massive voter suppression. It'd be interesting to see that quantified. Hundreds of thousands of voters were being purged in each of several states. The single-issue Gaza vote was lost in the noise of those gross examples of electoral manipulation.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago

I'm sure you're right. It's hard to know where to focus the blame most, but I am livid that this country is worse than my worst fears. On a certain level I am losing any desire to even care specifically how/why. I wouldn't have considered not voting before this but now I honestly am 99.9% of the way to saying fuck it all.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Only 10% of the electorate even cared about Gaza. You're giving the American people entirely too much credit.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -2 points 6 days ago

I don't know what point you think you're making, but after yesterday I give the American people zero credit. Millions of voters stayed home pretending it was about gaza. It's not my job to psychoanalyze them but I do know their actions contradicted their stated goal and that makes them frauds.

[–] drcobaltjedi@programming.dev 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah there are only so many times Biden can go "hey isreal, you'd better stop that genocide or else!" While doing nothing whatsoever and even giving them the weapons to continue the genocide before people go "well they aren't going to do a damn thing about this"

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

and that's why I voted trump! /s

[–] drcobaltjedi@programming.dev 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm not supporting that idea nor voter apathy. But i can certainly understand why Kamala lost Michigan, Dearborn has the largest muslim population in the country. I can understand why so many people there might be apathetic or uninterested in voting for a party that has put forth no pushback or even plans to stop an ongoing genocide against people of their faith.

Again, Trump will absolutely be far worse by just greenlighting isreal.

[–] Sooperstition@lemmy.one 0 points 6 days ago

Again, Trump will absolutely be far worseby just greenlighting isreal.

The aim of a genocide is the same whether there’s someone with a blue tie approving it or a red tie approving it. Israel wants to displace or kill every Palestinian and break their culture and heritage.

That’s what genocide is. You can’t get worse than that, and that’s what’s happening.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Trump will absolutely be far worse by just greenlighting isreal.

Something every human had the means to see coming. They just either didn't care or plugged their eyes and ears to it.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago

Oh you mean they didn't show up to support your preferred minority issue? huh. I wonder how the arabs felt this entire campaign?

No one owes you their vote. You need to earn it. Your support of the shit behavior towards arabs (and others) demonstrated by the democratic party and its candidate is what caused this.

go home trick. connect with your community. get support. if you need some help lines to call I can find them.

[–] LienNoir@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yep! Why didn't they vote ?! Why didn't they choose the genocide eneblers, it's only been 1 yearsince it started!! Those abstinent peaple are surely responsible for what Trump gonna do. But the Kamalla voters aren't responcible for it. They are the right choise !!!

[–] drcobaltjedi@programming.dev 10 points 1 week ago (13 children)

I'm not disagreeing with you. All I'm saying is that I understand why say a Palistinian American might be adverse to voting for the side actively faning the flames to a genocide including their own family members. I can imagine waking up and being told you should vote for the side that supplied the bombs that exploded half your family and going "why? So the other half can also get bombed? My whole family is going to die either way" and that being their rational for not voting.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Wh vote for the side that didn’t interfere when someone else bombed your family, when you can help elect someone who will encourage them to bomb every living relative too

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It can't possibly be because that's a real concern. They had to be paid actors. You sound like Infowars after a school shooting.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yeah because cambridge analytica was also a hoax

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Are you seriously comparing a fucking genocide to an info op?

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