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On prison abolition (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by needthosepylons@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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You're a prison abolitionist. You're in a high stakes discussion where you have to answer seriously and be convincing.

Someone asks you : "yeah, but what are we to do with people breaking the law, then? What will you replace prisons with ?"

What will you answer?

Edit : Thanks a lot for your answer, they were very interesting and reflecting different ways to frame a world without prisons.

Except from one or two edgelord hot takes, of course.

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[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In short, community based restorative justice and support services. I.e., repairing harm through dialogue between victims, offenders, and community members, while addressing root causes like poverty, mental health issues, and substance abuse.

Ultimately, the goal is to create a society where crime is less likely to occur. This requires a shift towards preventive measures that promote social equity and community engagement. Abolishing prisons, for me at least, is one part of a larger movement that values dignity and promotes healing rather than perpetuating cycles of harm

[–] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 week ago

repairing harm through dialogue between victims, offenders, and community members

What if the person who committed the crime doesn't want to engage in this process? What if the victim of the crime doesn't want to? What if a person accused of a crime maintains their innocence? There are plenty of cases where restorative justice can work, but many others where it won't.

addressing root causes like poverty, mental health issues, and substance abuse

the goal is to create a society where crime is less likely to occur

I think this is a much better framework to work with than prison abolition. Picking up the pieces after a crime has been committed is expensive and usually leaves you choosing from a range of bad options.

[–] iii@mander.xyz 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Isn't the root cause often (generational) trauma. There's no, within lifetime, solution.

[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

While trauma can be a life sentence in a way, that doesn't mean it isn't treatable. I'll always have a brain formed/rewired by trauma but, through therapy, it no longer impairs my life enough to qualify as a "disorder"

[–] iii@mander.xyz 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I have diagnosed C-PTSD. But I understand it's too late now to treat my father or grandfather.

Going prisonless seems, to me, rediculous?