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Who are the good guys in the Israel/Palestine conflict? (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 month ago by Greyfoxsolid@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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I genuinely do not know who the bad guys are. S lot of my leftist friends are against Israel, but from what I know Israel was attacked and is responding and trying to get their hostages back.

Enlighten me. Am I wrong? Why am I wrong?

And dumb it down for me, because apparently I'm an idiot.

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[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you would not have called Rhodesia or Apartheid South Africa the good guys then you should not consider Israel to be the good guys either.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't think a lot of westerners realize how highly propagandized and pro-colonialist their media is.

The US deemed the African National Congress (ANC, the main group resisting apartheid south africa) a terrorist group just like they do hamas now, and only removed Mandela from the US terrorist watchlist in 2008.

US media is saying all the same things about Palestine's resistance that they did in the 80s w/ to south african apartheid.

[–] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 month ago

It's also worth noting that Mandela founded the ANC's guerilla branch. Western media today portrays him as a purely non-violent, MLK-like figure, but in reality he was central to the ANC's decision to begin an armed struggle against apartheid.

It's almost as if:

During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 3 points 1 month ago

The amount of bias, propaganda, and straight-up misinformation from western media regarding this "conflict" (more like massacre) is truly outrageous.