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US elections: European Greens call for Jill Stein to step down (europeangreens.eu)
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Here's the problem: Trump is out to maximize environmental damage and the US Green Party runs as spoilers. Let's look at three scenarios:

Scenario 1:

Harris: 1001 votes

Trump: 1000 votes

Stein: 0 votes

Harris wins

Scenario 2:

Harris: 1000 votes

Trump: 1000 votes

Stein: 1 vote

Tied vote, which goes to the courts and Congress, putting Trump in power

Scenario 3:

Harris: 999 votes

Trump: 1000 votes

Stein: 2 votes

Trump wins outright

This spoiler effect makes it really imperative to actively vote for Harris if you want to see any kind of climate action going forward. Republicans know this, which is why they're the ones funding the Green Party.

And that's why the European Greens want Jill Stein to step down now — they get that what she's doing is making it easier to elect a fascist bent on environmental destruction.

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[–] index@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Both sides are responsible for the climate crisis we are in right now. Instead of advocating for one of them use your energies to advocate for someone better that would actually do something for climate and not just green washing

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And who would that be?

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Anyone who isn't responsible for the climate crisis or involved in it.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yet another cop-out.

[–] lemonmelon@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Because people like this have no platform. They have no plan. They screech and wail, as if caterwauling is panacea.

"Fix the climate!"

"End homelessness!"

"Stop the genocide!"

But when pressed as to how to effect these changes, they almost invariably resort to maligning your morals, denigrating your doubts, and calumniating your civility.