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[–] Voltage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Only those with ties to Russian Government? like govt jobs etc? or all?

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yes, only those with ties to the war, e.g. people who work for companies that develop software used on Russian drones.

But people are angry that this wasn't explained from the beginning.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's companies that under sanctions, it's not only drones, its banks that finance the war, and companies that are trying to censor the internet and destroy the privacy, that sort of things.

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Yes, the drones was just an example, hence the "example given" before it.

[–] Voltage@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 week ago

I understand why people were mad it wasn’t made clear in the beginning. if it’s just people with ties to the war then it’s a good thing they did.

[–] ghen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How would you even know what ties a person has when the problem is government level security. Besides, Russia doesn't exactly work on government payrolls anyway, it's more about working in subsidiary companies owned by the oligarchs who are able to skirt the law effectively becoming the government in the process. It's totally foreign to Western style government, there is nothing like it in the world

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

It's very simple. The US government maintains a list of sanctioned entities and companies. US citizens and businesses are not allowed to do business with these entities. Most of the removed maintainers either used their company email, or very publicly are employees of these sanctioned companies.

There's no investigation of connections or anything complicated going on here.

Also, if you think corporations becoming effective government is some Russia specific thing, I have a bridge to sell you.

[–] bastion@feddit.nl -1 points 1 week ago

There are points of power (like code run all over the world) that are desirable targets for malicious actors.

So, those who are subject to a malicious foreign power, whether they are innocent or not, because they are subject to a power that is not innocent.

We don't need to attack those people, but we need to deny the Russian state the capacity to affect those points of power where we can. They claim Russian citizenry, and so they are impacted by Russia's choices, and the international responses to Russia's actions.