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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

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tension on kernel mailing lists continues to grow as a Linux Foundation board member finally replies with a "summary of the legal advice the kernel is operating under" re: enforcing US sanctions (lore.kernel.org)

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[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 44 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

What were Linus comments that precipitated this?

The rage comes from LF actions and Linus words. All they had to do was to say: Thank you people for your contribution but we have no other choice, this is the law. But they did quite the opposite and Linus showed his true ugly white western supremacy face for all to see. That is the cause of the rage.

[–] tekato@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Ok, lots of Russian trolls out and about.

It's entirely clear why the change was done, it's not getting reverted, and using multiple random anonymous accounts to try to "grass root" it by Russian troll factories isn't going to change anything.

And FYI for the actual innocent bystanders who aren't troll farm accounts - the "various compliance requirements" are not just a US thing.

If you haven't heard of Russian sanctions yet, you should try to read the news some day. And by "news", I don't mean Russian state-sponsored spam.

As to sending me a revert patch - please use whatever mush you call brains. I'm Finnish. Did you think I'd be *supporting* Russian aggression? Apparently it's not just lack of real news, it's lack of history knowledge too.

[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

No clue how all this shakes out. Not real invested in this ideological/bureaucratic slap fight.

It's always entertaining when Linus flames off.

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

When Linus becomes entertaining is when he is not doing his job properly.

[–] basmati@lemmus.org 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Either the death of the Linux Foundation or the exclusion of the Linux foundation from kernel development for at least a few versions. In any case Linus likely used the last of his goodwill in proving he's more American than any other descriptor.

[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Ehh. IDK if that would be bad or good for Linux. More choices against the possibility of weaker teams/poorer code. Even if things did fragment for a while, one version likely comes out on top and everyone migrates slowly back together.

Interwebs and tech seems to route around this sort of thing.

[–] basmati@lemmus.org 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's better in the long term, free software and the political philosophy behind it is entirely incompatible with American political ideology or geopolitics generally. If everyone can contribute, everyone can benefit. When you start limiting this by arbitrary nonsensical reasoning due to legal obligations you only have because the founder of the foundation has a boner for an idealized America that never existed... Shit gets worse. From this many developers are going to permanently leave Linux development and a few may get petty enough to change their license to prevent use in Linux.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yah sure the guys who are paid to contribute to Linux are going to leave.

[–] basmati@lemmus.org 1 points 2 months ago

Yes, if enough principaled contributors leave, it'll no longer make sense for companies to pay for people to contribute.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Sure but tech has only existed during peaceful times. With the world splitting apart you can’t assume it we’ll be the same outcome.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 2 points 2 months ago

Given how used I am to every statement by a politician or business being this slick, polished, carefully re-drafted beige speech it's a real contrast to see someone like Torvalds just blasting out their thoughts

[–] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linus-Torvalds-Russian-Devs

tl;dr: anyone who disagrees is a russian troll or a useful idiot, according to the linux man