When given a choice between a millitary industrial neoliberal with a rainbow voting base and a fascist who is one elon musk golf session away from banning HRT, the best option is certainly not to refuse to play out of protest

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[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The first step that needs to happen is building up a third party through local politics, not ignoring politics for 3 years and 11 months and then suddenly expecting a third party to become viable.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oddly enough, we don't need advice from Democrats on how to run our party, because they want us to fail.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

"If you don't agree with me 100% you must be against me."

Oddly enough the same thing "3rd party" voters complain about Democrats doing.

Also, for people who want to succeed it's odd I only hear about "3rd party" in October every 4 years. I'm sure in January you'll still be talking about the importance of building a 3rd party right?

Edit: I don't know why your post got removed, maybe you were banned for something else, but for the record: I'm not a Democrat, but I'm a realist. I would love for there to be a viable 3rd party, but that's not going to happen in the next 2 weeks and allowing Donald Trump to become elected is going to actively make that less likely. Considering what happened on Jan 6th with minimal consequences, if Donald Trump gets elected you might even lose the option of a 2nd party.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

"If you don't agree with me 100% you must be against me."

Here's the electoral reality. We have a first-past-the-post, winner-take-all system. There can only be two major parties at the same time. For the Greens to win, the Democrats have to lose.

Since the Democrats don't want to lose, they'll do everything they can to stop the Greens. They aren't going to be doing anything to help us. They certainly aren't going to be dispensing friendly advice that will help us defeat them.

I'm sure in January you'll still be talking about the importance of building a 3rd party right?

I'll be talking about the importance of building an alternative party, yes. At usual, Democrats are projecting. They expect people to vote and then go to sleep for four years.

I've can't remember how many times I've heard a Democrat tell me how stressed they are about the election and they can't wait for Harris to win so that they can go forget about politics again.

Greens are activists. We know that there's going to be a lot of work to be done for the next four years, regardless of who wins.