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Today I noticed that after I first booted my computer, my motherboard's Bluetooth card wasn't detected. I need bluetooth to use my speakers because my soundcard doesn't have linux drivers(another problem for another day) so I went without sound today. But then when I restarted the computer to see if that would change anything regarding the Bluetooth, it,

a.) Didn't change anything about the Bluetooth driver, and B) now my 2.4g dongle doesn't work for me to connect my mouse(I can still use it wired though) and my wired keyboard doesn't work.

Both times I booted my noticed that systemd was shutting down udevd, which I have never noticed before. I know that udev is controls peripherals, so that is the most likely issue.

How would I go about fixing my computer?

Computer is running fedora 40 and has an MSI mpg B650 gaming edge wifi. I can send a hardware probe if necessary

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[–] nous@programming.dev 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It doesn’t technically have drivers at all or go missing. All supporting kernel modules for hardware are always present at the configuration level.

This isn't true? The Linux kernel has a lot of drivers in the kernel source tree. But not all of them. Notably NVIDIA drivers have not been included before. And even for the included drivers they may or may not be compiled into the kernel. They can and generally are compiled with the kernel but as separate libraries that are loaded at runtime. These days few drivers are compiled in and most are dynamically loaded depending on what hardware is present on the system. Distros can opt to split these drives up into different packages that you may or may not have installed - which is common for less common hardware.

Though with the way most distros ship drivers they don't tend to spontaneously stop working. Well, with the exception of Arch Linux which deletes the old kernel and modules during an upgrade which means the current running kernel cannot find its drivers and stops dynamically loading them - which often results in hotplug devices like USB to stop working if you try to plug them in again after the drivers get unloaded (and need a reboot to fix as that boots into the latest kernel that has its drivers present).

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That is what I meant by configure. You're not going to HP to download your printer driver or realtek to get one for your network adaptor. To the end user, the kernel includes the required modules, or it is a matter of simple configurations. The exception being proprietary garbage. However with Nvidia on Fedora, it is a non issue as the Anaconda system builds the Nvidia module from source with every kernel update from outside of the kernel but under the shim, so even secure boot works.

The OP was not asking computer science OS 101. My reply is just intended as a surface level to cause them to question the drivers mentality. I've seen many people follow this logic and not get anywhere.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

That is what I meant by configure. You're not going to HP to download your printer driver or realtek to get one for your network adaptor.

I mean... You can.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/download/16008/linux-driver-for-intel-raid-module-rmsp3ad160f-rmsp3cd080f-rmsp3hd080e-and-intel-raid-adapter-rsp3td160f-rsp3md088f-rsp3dd080f-rsp3wd080e.html

Just because Linux bundles a lot of drivers with your distribution doesn't mean "drivers don't exist".

And it's not only "closed source garbage":

https://github.com/umlaeute/v4l2loopback