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Welp that answers a lot of why all .ml are down (i.imgur.com)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by BarterClub@sh.itjust.works to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] Madbrad200@lemmy.world 83 points 1 year ago (4 children)

this is technically true, but it's not why lemmygrad, ran by full on communists, chose the .ml tld

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Which ironically, is now failing due to the fault of those in power of that TLD. The fediverse needs to be careful with tld’s they choose. ICAAN exists, but it’s obvious that some domain power is delegated and therefore safer TLDs should be chosen

[–] hoshikarakitaridia@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly this might be an unpopular opinion, but I think this literally down to bad luck and this is nothing we have to be prepare for anymore than any other host. Which is an incredibly small amount. It's not like this shit happens often as there would be a lot of news coverage around it considering the amount of big companies affected, and I frankly think this is very low on the list of priorities of things that lemmy has to keep in mind or address at some point.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I completely agree with you. My point was purely to say that in the future those running parts of the fediverse now need to be more cautious. Now that we know that ICAAN will allow TLD administrators to reclaim these domains, it’s important that TLDs are chosen less about how they look in the moment as a cool URL, and more about their historical integrity of keeping a domain active.

[–] hoshikarakitaridia@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My point was purely to say that in the future those running parts of the fediverse now need to be more cautious.

And that's where I disagree. This is like being attacked by a lion in Berlin. Yeah, it's a risk, but tbh it's just such a stupid situation that if it happens, we are decentralised so for most ppl it should be a minimal impact, and for the rest it's unavoidable. My point is, there's always a non-zero chance for this but we should waste no time thinking about this, as there's no real solution to it. It's like saying "there's a non-zero chance my house can be hit by the shockwave a meteorite". No one prepares for that, as it makes no sense to accomodate for that.

And I generally agree with the integrity of your solution, but at that point you would also need to think about any other political decision that could lead to TLDs changing ownership. Imagine if .net changed ownership and suddenly there's a 23yo billionaire setting new prices for like every 5th host on the internet. That's so ridiculous there's no way plan for all of those possibilities in every way.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

My comment is purely about new servers being set up. It’s decentralized but there is a massive margin of users on certain servers. It’s always a non-zero chance of something going wrong, but the fediverse shouldn’t be without responsibility and efforts to improve. If it’s know that certain TLDs are likely to take back a domain, then don’t use them.

there’s a non-zero chance my house can be hit by the shockwave a meteorite

More like “there’s a non-zero chance that country-based TLDs are more risky”

One has real data behind it, one is a literal random basis

[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stalinists, not communism

[–] icyjiub@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's funny you're getting down votes for this. ML was literally created as the official formulation of Marxism & Leninism for the USSR by Stalin.

[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Reactionary Stalin/China/etc stans try to frame themselves as communists and don't like it when it's called out. They're like qanonists with a different cult leader.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I'm surprised they didn't use the .su Soviet Union Top Level Domain.